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::I’m jumping in here not knowing exactly what the subject is, but…… It’s about premature ejaculation 
::Hope this helps more than it scares anyone! I’m glad your friend is feeling better. Not scary, just not for me 
Jackie ~*~No matter where you go or what you do, you live your entire life within the confines of your head~*~ – Terry Josephson — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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::That stuff helped you? I didn’t notice anything except there was ::another tablet to remember to take. Bugger! Maybe I’ll give that ::stuff another go… er- if I remember! I admit it may be a placebo affect, but I do believe it helps me a lot. Just wish it wasn’t so damn pricey. ::Great quote in your other reply btw… a really good read! My docs ::never said *anything* about any of that stuff. It is a great read. It helps me calm down when I’m having a lot of skipped beats. Jackie ~*~No matter where you go or what you do, you live your entire life within the confines of your head~*~ – Terry Josephson — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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I’m jumping in here not knowing exactly what the subject is, but……
Skipping… the subject is *skipping*! A few months ago a friend who had been feeling very down and weak for a long time finally went to a Dr. Turns out his heart was beating out of beat (something out of sync). He went to the hospital and they put him under general anesthesia. They stopped his heart, waited a little while, then restarted it. It seemed fixed but then the symptoms came back only a day later. They did the same procedure again and he says he feels better then he has in years! That was maybe 2 months ago and he is still doing great.
Wow, and I thought House did weird stuff. Rebooting the heart, whatever will they think of next… a CNS Bios update? 
Hope this helps more than it scares anyone!
Scared, me? Nooooo… <throwing away very old cardiologist appointment card — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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:: ::My heart mucks about too, I think it’s trying to syncopate but ::Jackie probably knows what it’s *really* called, I keep ::forgetting. One doc explained that my heart rhythm remained the ::same but that it skipped beats now and then and another said ::the rhythm was the same but that a beat would be a little early ::now and then… both said it was harmless. Do you mean synchronize?
Nah, it’s trying some musical techniques: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syncopation When I’m going through a bad patch with the skipped beats, I remind myself that my heart is NOT skipping a beat. It’s that the beat came too early, sort of like premature ejaculation
LOL! If I ever see a cardiologist again I’m going to use that discription… er- if I remember. Ok- maybe I can make an appointment with my GP instead, unless I forget.<vbeg Yup, harmless but damn annoying and terrifying at times. COq10 really helps me. I ran out of it last week and have been miserable ever since with the skipped beats. I bought some COq10 yesterday, took a bunch…….and now my heart isn’t irritable anymore.
That stuff helped you? I didn’t notice anything except there was another tablet to remember to take. Bugger! Maybe I’ll give that stuff another go… er- if I remember! Great quote in your other reply btw… a really good read! My docs never said *anything* about any of that stuff. — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – :: ::My heart mucks about too, I think it’s trying to syncopate but ::Jackie probably knows what it’s *really* called, I keep forgetting. ::One doc explained that my heart rhythm remained the same but that ::it skipped beats now and then and another said the rhythm was the ::same but that a beat would be a little early now and then… both ::said it was harmless. Do you mean synchronize? When I’m going through a bad patch with the skipped beats, I remind myself that my heart is NOT skipping a beat. It’s that the beat came too early, sort of like premature ejaculation Yup, harmless but damn annoying and terrifying at times. COq10 really helps me. I ran out of it last week and have been miserable ever since with the skipped beats. I bought some COq10 yesterday, took a bunch…….and now my heart isn’t irritable anymore.
I’m jumping in here not knowing exactly what the subject is, but…… A few months ago a friend who had been feeling very down and weak for a long time finally went to a Dr. Turns out his heart was beating out of beat (something out of sync). He went to the hospital and they put him under general anesthesia. They stopped his heart, waited a little while, then restarted it. It seemed fixed but then the symptoms came back only a day later. They did the same procedure again and he says he feels better then he has in years! That was maybe 2 months ago and he is still doing great. Hope this helps more than it scares anyone! Tony — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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:: ::My heart mucks about too, I think it’s trying to syncopate but ::Jackie probably knows what it’s *really* called, I keep forgetting. ::One doc explained that my heart rhythm remained the same but that ::it skipped beats now and then and another said the rhythm was the ::same but that a beat would be a little early now and then… both ::said it was harmless. Do you mean synchronize? When I’m going through a bad patch with the skipped beats, I remind myself that my heart is NOT skipping a beat. It’s that the beat came too early, sort of like premature ejaculation Yup, harmless but damn annoying and terrifying at times. COq10 really helps me. I ran out of it last week and have been miserable ever since with the skipped beats. I bought some COq10 yesterday, took a bunch…….and now my heart isn’t irritable anymore. Jackie ~*~No matter where you go or what you do, you live your entire life within the confines of your head~*~ – Terry Josephson — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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<gently snipped ::But I found yah and I am back. lol Glad you’re back ::Anywho update on the anxiety. I have done wonderful this past week and ::a half. I havnt had hardly any anxiety and have been doing and feeling ::super. I think the zoloft has kicked in full force and I have been ::feeling much better mentally. Plus the stinking sexual side effects ::have gone away! YAY FOR ME!! lol Yeah!! This is awesome news. I’m so happy for you. It IS a wonderful feeling when a med kicks in and you finally get some relief. ::Does the anxiety go away this much and then come back and go away? ::Does it stay with some of you? It can wax and wane. I can have long stretches of no anxiety and long stretches of high anxiety even with effective meds. I appreciate the good times and grin and bear the bad ones knowing it will not last forever. ::I am going to see a cardiologist because my heart skips beats and ::flutters and my aunt(who had the same symptoms) said to go see one and ::they may be able to see if its a condition other than anxiety. She had ::all of the same things happening to her and was on medication until ::one time at the doctors he noticed a speedy heart beat that would slow ::and then speed up. So he sent her to a cardiologist. I cant spell what ::its called. but its a big bunch of words, anywho she had it shocked ::back into a normal heart beat and it fixed it. Skipped beats, which are also called PVCs, are quite common in people with an anxiety disorder. Common PVC triggers are anxiety, caffeine and decongestants. I’ve been battling these beasties for a long time. Some days they really suck. I recommend this informative group for people with PVCs…. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PeoplewithPVCs/ ::So thats what I will be doing next week, Seeing a cardio and making ::sure its not something else. I’m sure everything will be okay. Good luck! (((((Marie))))) Here is a informative post from another forum that gives me a lot of comfort when I’m going through a particularly bad time with PVCs. Mayb you can find some comfort from it as well. original message: okaaaaay. This effort is placed on your support group website courtesy of my spouse, who is seated next to me with threats of bodily harm if I do not take time from my schedule to provide a professional response and take appropriate interest and concern. To this extent, I summarily aplogize that my occupational schedule generally prohibits the latitude necessary to search out your groups and assist with providing information where it might be sought or needed. Under the circumstances and to avoid physical reprisal by my well-intended wife, I hereby consent to the necessary time expenditure without further delay. And with particular reply to the young lady who so keenly observed that no men visit or participate in your support network, allow me to make a footprint in the sand and be the first to join you. Well ladies, down to business. Firstly, let’s see if we can collect your concerns and provide a general and hopefully beneficial response. We need to start with a little and very brief general anatomy course, so let’s take our seats. I want to start by talking about a very special part of the human anatomy that does not seem to appear in the collective messages I’ve reviewed; The VAGUS nerve. The vagus nerve, also referred to as the 10th cranial nerve, is appropriately termed a "mixed" nerve. It provides a sort of two-way communication of nerve impulses back and forth between the brain and the pharnyx,larynx, esophagus, stomach and associated abdominal viscera(basically, your throat, windpipe, your tummy and guts), the heart, lungs and several more complex but irrelevant body organs or functions. The vagus nerve is the longest and most complex of the cranial nerves in the body. The key point here is to make note that this nerve involves the "heart," the "lungs" and basically the whole digestive system of your tummy and intestines. Now let’s pair that with some real specific and limited physiology about the heart and its rhythm. We also need to bring clarity to some of the medical jargon being taked about by many of you in your messages. The term PVC, or Premature Ventricular Contraction, is just one of many arrythmias and not necessarily isolated to what many term as "palpatations." When we speak of palpatations, what we really mean is the presence of "ectopic" beats(hearbeats where there should not normally be)and the precise induction of these beats is felt by us as dancing of our heart or a flutter sensation in our chest, the prominence or intensity of which is determined by the precise moment of the extra beats in proximity to the most recent beat and the upcoming beat or contraction of the heart ventricles or atria. Think of it in relation to your memory of your worst date, where the guy you’re with has no rhythm whatsoever but wants to impress you with all the right moves and clumsily tries to introduce his own dance-step into your otherwise smoothly flowing and natural pace with the music. Depending upon his rather untimely entry, he can cause awkwardness that either simply causes you to quickly pause and regain your rhythm or literally trip you repeatedly until you’re forced to leave the dancefloor. Well, the same holds true for the heart in our example. The extra beat, or palpatation might come at a point that’s subtle, or it might be at a point where the heart stumbles repeatedly until normal sinus rhythm is regained. Now let’s get to "why" palpatations occur. The heart has a natural pacemaker called the sinoatrial node among several less distinct and similar pacers, which is stimulated by guess which nerve? You guessed it; The VAGUS nerve. The vagus nerve helps regulate the heart in comparison to other functions taking place with other areas and is doing its job right now in each and every one of us. In fact, the variability of your heart rate during inspiration and expiration of your lungs is an effect of the vagus nerve. We’ve all noticed that when we take a breath in, our heart tends to beat just a little faster and when we breath out, a little slower. It’s an entirely normal bodily function and is connected to the need by the body’s system to respond to the environment. Now that we kind of have a little medical background under our belts, let’s take one of the complaints by many of you regarding the proximity or timely appearance of palpatations and indigestion. Remember that we said the vagus nerve is linked to both the tummy, the throat and the heart. Let’s assume that we’ve eaten meal and it’s caused us to experience some gastrointestinal discomfort, or in other words, gas. The irregular presence and activity by your tummy and intestines stimulates, more appropriately irritates, the vagus nerve which sends a rather inappropriate signal back along the pathway to guess where? That’s right! The heart. Move to the head of the class. The heart is busy pacing away regularly and is relatively unconcerned with all the food you poured into your tummy, when all of a sudden in comes a signal from the vagus nerve because it has been inappropriately stimulated and tells the heart to beat. Well, just like our bad date example, the signal to beat is rather untimely and awkward but the heart has to accept it and respond. The result is extra beats that make the heart feel like it is stumbling. The degree to which it stumbles oftentimes depends upon the extent to which the vagus nerve is irritated and the relative state of indigestion present as the causitive agent. There is most often no pain assoicated with this occurrence because it is not the result of a lack of blood or oxygen that creates the palpatation, but rather just a simple additional electrical impulse or series of impulses. Pericardial pain, or pain adjacent to the heart, can sometimes accompany palpatations or exist exclusive of any arrythmia, but is not necessarily considered pathologic or harmful to us. Remember that we’re dealing with inappropriate electrical impulses and muscle tissue other than the heart that is partially innervated by the vagus nerve and can respond inappropriately, causing a jabbing or shooting pain than many describe as a "catch" in their chest. We’ll talk more about chest pain in a bit. Let’s discuss the sensation that some of you described as a warm flushing sensation of your face and perhaps other body areas that accompanies the palpatations. Recall our anatomy lesson. The vagus nerve stimulates many areas of the body in response to our environment or internal conditions caused by the outside environment, ie. a meal that produces indigestion. The vagus nerve provides all of us with a stable process called vagal tone. This tone or stability keeps us in a state of balance so to speak with our environment. In response to environmental cues or situations, that tone or stabiity changes to prepare for what may be required. You’ve probably all seen a guy that makes your heart "skip a beat." Ever wonder why that phrase ever came about? Think for a moment. If you’ve ever been emotionally overcome, your heart races or feels like it pounds in your chest, we begin sweating, our blood pressure rises, we feel nervous and at some point our face is overcome by a warm flushing sensation that we attribute to nervousness or embarassment. Well, guess what nerve plays a very big role in that entire process? Right Again!!! The VAGUS nerve. The above scenario would be a case of increased vagal tone. Well, if there’s an increase, there’s likely to be a case of decreased vagal tone as well. Indeed there is. decreased vagal tone can make us weak, nauseated, tremble, and even faint. It happens in cases of being excessively startled or frightened. Other conditions, such as diabetes can cause decreased vagal tone, but for our … read more »
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Well I just wanted to let everyone know why I havnt been posting lately. I bought a macbook pro and have been converting from PC to mac and well its different. But I like it. Also before I began the switch my cable company was bought out by time warner, so they have been changing over for a while now, and finally decided to change my news server info and what not. So I couldnt get into the news group and had to find the group on google groups. But I found yah and I am back. lol Anywho update on the anxiety. I have done wonderful this past week and a half. I havnt had hardly any anxiety and have been doing and feeling super. I think the zoloft has kicked in full force and I have been feeling much better mentally. Plus the stinking sexual side effects have gone away! YAY FOR ME!! lol Does the anxiety go away this much and then come back and go away? Does it stay with some of you? I am going to see a cardiologist because my heart skips beats and flutters and my aunt(who had the same symptoms) said to go see one and they may be able to see if its a condition other than anxiety. She had all of the same things happening to her and was on medication until one time at the doctors he noticed a speedy heart beat that would slow and then speed up. So he sent her to a cardiologist. I cant spell what its called. but its a big bunch of words, anywho she had it shocked back into a normal heart beat and it fixed it. So thats what I will be doing next week, Seeing a cardio and making sure its not something else. woot MarieG — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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Hi, Marie, Welcome back! Glad you like the macbook. Sounds like you are doing well on the Zoloft. More good news! Certainly doesn’t hurt to see a cardiologist to rule out any problems. Keep us updated. smiles, Elise
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well I just wanted to let everyone know why I havnt been posting lately. I bought a macbook pro and have been converting from PC to mac and well its different. But I like it. Also before I began the switch my cable company was bought out by time warner, so they have been changing over for a while now, and finally decided to change my news server info and what not. So I couldnt get into the news group and had to find the group on google groups. But I found yah and I am back. lol Anywho update on the anxiety. I have done wonderful this past week and a half. I havnt had hardly any anxiety and have been doing and feeling super. I think the zoloft has kicked in full force and I have been feeling much better mentally. Plus the stinking sexual side effects have gone away! YAY FOR ME!! lol Does the anxiety go away this much and then come back and go away? Does it stay with some of you? I am going to see a cardiologist because my heart skips beats and flutters and my aunt(who had the same symptoms) said to go see one and they may be able to see if its a condition other than anxiety. She had all of the same things happening to her and was on medication until one time at the doctors he noticed a speedy heart beat that would slow and then speed up. So he sent her to a cardiologist. I cant spell what its called. but its a big bunch of words, anywho she had it shocked back into a normal heart beat and it fixed it. So thats what I will be doing next week, Seeing a cardio and making sure its not something else. woot MarieG — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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Well I just wanted to let everyone know why I havnt been posting lately. I bought a macbook pro and have been converting from PC to mac and well its different. But I like it. Also before I began the switch my cable company was bought out by time warner, so they have been changing over for a while now, and finally decided to change my news server info and what not. So I couldnt get into the news group and had to find the group on google groups. But I found yah and I am back. lol
Sounds like a fun new toy! Anywho update on the anxiety. I have done wonderful this past week and a half. I havnt had hardly any anxiety and have been doing and feeling super. I think the zoloft has kicked in full force and I have been feeling much better mentally. Plus the stinking sexual side effects have gone away! YAY FOR ME!! lol
That is *great*. Does the anxiety go away this much and then come back and go away? Does it stay with some of you?
I dunno, my anxiety seems to vary over time with or without meds… but a lot less with meds probably. (I’m not about to test that now, LOL!) I am going to see a cardiologist because my heart skips beats and flutters and my aunt(who had the same symptoms) said to go see one and they may be able to see if its a condition other than anxiety. She had all of the same things happening to her and was on medication until one time at the doctors he noticed a speedy heart beat that would slow and then speed up. So he sent her to a cardiologist. I cant spell what its called. but its a big bunch of words, anywho she had it shocked back into a normal heart beat and it fixed it.
My heart mucks about too, I think it’s trying to syncopate but Jackie probably knows what it’s *really* called, I keep forgetting. One doc explained that my heart rhythm remained the same but that it skipped beats now and then and another said the rhythm was the same but that a beat would be a little early now and then… both said it was harmless. So thats what I will be doing next week, Seeing a cardio and making sure its not something else.
Good luck with your appointment Marie, let us know how you get on, ok? — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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