The Klonopin Challenge

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(grin)                                    Best Wooshes, Arthur

ROFLMAO!!! Pam

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Alright, I have a question that’s just as relevent.  I have been having Reflux since I have been using Klonopin. Anyone who has or dares to take wine enemas as a substitute means of being able to drink, and avoid the reflux problems.  Please let me know what results you’ve had. — Kiesha Van Dyke

LOL!!!! pam

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    Since your wondering about wine enemas because of reflux. My guess is your care about the effects of the alcohol rather than the taste of the wine.     Might I suggest Creme De Menthe, the mint is very calming to the stomach. And Besides that you won’t be scaring away the bar patrons.                                                                     Tim;) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone who has or dares to crush Klonopin and smoke it in a pipe, please let me know what results you’ve had. We should approach this question with a non-judgemental and scholarly attitude.  Chastising someone in our same position with a treatment question goes against everything this group stands for. Alright, I have a question that’s just as relevent.  I have been having Reflux since I have been using Klonopin. Anyone who has or dares to take wine enemas as a substitute means of being able to drink, and avoid the reflux problems.  Please let me know what results you’ve had. — Kiesha Van Dyke To e-mail, remove ** from address.

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| | OK, I went ahead and took the challenge.  I smoked about 1/10 mg. in about | |    Mike, why would you try something like that!??  Don’t go doing the wine I was curious…yellow.  Given my past history, I felt quite confident that no serious trouble would result.  In younger and stupider (or maybe not stupider, given that I tried the K challenge ;) days, I tried smoking Librium, but it was so full of fillers that it just gave me a headache. And don’t worry, I don’t have GERD, and I really dislike enemas, so I’ll take my occasional wine orally ;) -Mike :)

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    Since your wondering about wine enemas because of reflux. My guess is your care about the effects of the alcohol rather than the taste of the wine.     Might I suggest Creme De Menthe, the mint is very calming to the stomach. And Besides that you won’t be scaring away the bar patrons.                                                                     Tim;)

THAT explains why I can never get a date, when I’ve had a couple of drinks at a bar.  ;-)   Kiesha – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone who has or dares to crush Klonopin and smoke it in a pipe, please let me know what results you’ve had. We should approach this question with a non-judgemental and scholarly attitude.  Chastising someone in our same position with a treatment question goes against everything this group stands for. Alright, I have a question that’s just as relevent.  I have been having Reflux since I have been using Klonopin. Anyone who has or dares to take wine enemas as a substitute means of being able to drink, and avoid the reflux problems.  Please let me know what results you’ve had. — Kiesha Van Dyke To e-mail, remove ** from address.

– Kiesha Van Dyke To e-mail, remove ** from address.

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I have not (and will not) taken the Klonopin or wine enema challenge. But I am open to hearing about alternative methods of taking prescriptions for anxiety.  As sufferers of this affliction, we are on the front lines of current treatment and therapy.  If one of us accidentally or even intentionally (with educated risk) experiments with different treatment methods, I believe if would benefit the rest of us (especially if someone tries something and it has a terrible affect on his or her body or mind). One alternative method of dosing which I currently have been safely trying for the past week is Prozac as needed.  While I have bad side effects when taken as prescribed, I noticed that when I take Prozac, there is an inital elevation of my mood and a reduction of my anxiety. Therefore I have taken my dose of Prozac only on those days when I am feeling exceptionally down and worried.  This works safely for me but mayby not for you. Finally, I would like to publically apologize to Keisha and Gwen for cc’ing this newsgroup topic to their private email addresses in a previous posting. Sincere regards, Tekbir — You may reach me on AOL’s Instant Messenger.  My screen name is TekbirAlim.

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I actually knew this guy once who was on ritalin and wellbutrin for attention defiect disorder and depression.  I came over his house one evening to find him totally wigged out eyes bugging out of his head, and incredibaly paranoid.  He was dripping with sweat.  I said "what the hell is the matter with you? are you okay?".  He took out a tray that was covered with powder, I asked"what is that?".  He told me he crushes up ritalin and snorts it. It acts like a amphedamine<sp (like coke).  He was a disgusting display, it totally changed his personality, and it frightened me quite a bit. So my 2 cents goes like this.  Take drugs as precribed by your Doc.                                    Rhiannon

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I have not (and will not) taken the Klonopin or wine enema challenge.

Good to hear that,  they both sound like a bad idea to me.                 <Snipped Finally, I would like to publically apologize to Keisha and Gwen for cc’ing this newsgroup topic to their private email addresses in a previous posting.

Apology accepted, but don’t forget " i before e except after c " Kiesha   (not Keisha) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sincere regards, Tekbir

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writes : (grin)                                       Best Wooshes,                                       Arthur

Shouldn’t that be ( | )                     ‘                     ‘                     ‘ :) — Jon Guite When replying by email, please remove the trailing x from my return address

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: : (grin) : : Shouldn’t that be ( | ) :                     ‘ :                     ‘ :                     ‘ Depends on how anal retentive you are. ;)                                         Best Wishes,                                         Arthur

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Kiesha schreef: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have not (and will not) taken the Klonopin or wine enema challenge. Good to hear that,  they both sound like a bad idea to me.                 <Snipped Finally, I would like to publically apologize to Keisha and Gwen for cc’ing this newsgroup topic to their private email addresses in a previous posting. Apology accepted, but don’t forget " i before e except after c " Kiesha   (not Keisha)

…er…Ciesha? P.P. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sincere regards, Tekbir

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: : Anyone who has or dares to take wine enemas as a substitute means of being : able to drink, and avoid the reflux problems.  Please let me know what : results you’ve had. Is this what the Brits mean by "getting pissed?" (grin)                                         Best Wishes,                                         Arthur

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OK, I went ahead and took the challenge.  I smoked about 1/10 mg. in about three puffs.  Suprisingly, it did seem like a relaxatory effect hapened.  I didn’t expect anything, but there are other reasons that could explain the effect.  It felt kind of like your brain on one too many xanax.  I don’t plan to repeat the experiment as I would rather take my K as prescribed. -Mike

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OK, I went ahead and took the challenge.  I smoked about 1/10 mg. in about three puffs.  Suprisingly, it did seem like a relaxatory effect hapened.  I didn’t expect anything, but there are other reasons that could explain the effect.  It felt kind of like your brain on one too many xanax.  I don’t plan to repeat the experiment as I would rather take my K as prescribed. -Mike

   Mike, why would you try something like that!??  Don’t go doing the wine

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone who has or dares to crush Klonopin and smoke it in a pipe, please let me know what results you’ve had. We should approach this question with a non-judgemental and scholarly attitude.  Chastising someone in our same position with a treatment question goes against everything this group stands for. Alright, I have a question that’s just as relevent.  I have been having Reflux since I have been using Klonopin. Anyone who has or dares to take wine enemas as a substitute means of being able to drink, and avoid the reflux problems.  Please let me know what results you’ve had. — Kiesha Van Dyke To e-mail, remove ** from address.

Iris —

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: (grin)                                         Best Wooshes,                                         Arthur

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I agree, why bash the guy for asking an informational question?   Aren’t we being a bit smug and self-righteous?  I have never heard of anyone smoking anti-anxiety medication, but I have certainly crushed and dissolved many forms of medication for my autistic child and it may well be that it gets delivered faster.  But as for an instant reaction, I would tend to doubt it. The other possibility of course here is that it is just a tongue in cheek posting, in which case we shouldn’t respond so harshly either, more humor is surely needed around here.  PETER

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Anyone who has or dares to crush Klonopin and smoke it in a pipe, please let me know what results you’ve had. Did it give a flashlike effect of calmness? Or was there no result? just wondering nick

Okay Nick, people here (who have no answers themselves) don’t like my answer to you.  Have you ever smoked crack, Nick?  I have, quite a bit of it. Here is how smoking drugs works.  Instead of the Klonopin level, doing a bell curve in your bloodstream over approximately 24 hours it would do that bell curve, in about 5-10 minutes.  I think it would be a very stupid thing to do.  When you say "dares" to crush a Klonopin, You sound like a junkie, looking for a high.  You mentioned in a post a month or two ago that that the Klonopin seemed to wear off in a few hours, for you.  I would bet that if you smoked it, and it did give you a rush of calmness it would probably last 5-10 minutes.  Then you would be smoking another Klonopin and your supply would run out very quickly.  Smoking any medication, that is meant to be ingested is playing with fire. Kiesha VanDyke curve in your

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Anyone who has or dares to crush Klonopin and smoke it in a pipe, please let me know what results you’ve had. We should approach this question with a non-judgemental and scholarly attitude.  Chastising someone in our same position with a treatment question goes against everything this group stands for.

Alright, I have a question that’s just as relevent.  I have been having Reflux since I have been using Klonopin. Anyone who has or dares to take wine enemas as a substitute means of being able to drink, and avoid the reflux problems.  Please let me know what results you’ve had. — Kiesha Van Dyke To e-mail, remove ** from address.

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I agree, why bash the guy for asking an informational question?

  Aren’t we being a bit smug and self-righteous?

Don’t think so…was a very *druggie* thing to describe or think of. I have never heard of anyone smoking anti-anxiety medication, but I have certainly crushed and dissolved many forms of medication for my autistic child and it may well be that it gets delivered faster.

We aren’t talking about a child – we are talking about an adult wanting an alternative form of ingestion that is akin to abnormal drug use.  If he wants faster – there are other meds that do that without having to anything harder than swallow them. The other possibility of course here is that it is just a tongue in cheek posting, in which case we shouldn’t respond so harshly either, more humor is surely needed around here.  PETER

Peter….humor abounds here.  There are many that are suggestable to things and if your find the responses harsh, perhaps you should read back on some of the crap that has been posted here over, oh…the last few months.  While we all make decisions for ourselves – there ARE people reading this that have abuse probs, looking for miracles, not doing what thier docs tell them and just plain scared.  As in all newsgroups – we are all allowed out opinions and reactions.  Deal with it. Gwen

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Anyone who has or dares to crush Klonopin and smoke it in a pipe, please let me know what results you’ve had. We should approach this question with a non-judgemental and scholarly attitude.  Chastising someone in our same position with a treatment question goes against everything this group stands for.

This is a crap answer.  The very question was worded as a drug seeking experience.  who would think of *smoking* Klonopin except someone looking for a quick fix/high?  Sorry – but having been an addict – I cannot read it any other way.  These are pills meant to be swallowed and that is the method of ingestion.  Try running *smoking* K past a doc and see what they say.  If you see Kiesha’s or my reply chastizing, maybe it is because the scenario is about as druggie as one can get. And please….keep our posts in ASAP and out on my private mail. Gwen

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Anyone who has or dares to crush Klonopin and smoke it in a pipe, please let me know what results you’ve had. Did it give a flashlike effect of calmness? Or was there no result? just wondering nick

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Anyone who has or dares to crush Klonopin and smoke it in a pipe, please let me know what results you’ve had. Did it give a flashlike effect of calmness? Or was there no result?

Um…you need a new hobby – we who take this for legit reasons don’t make it a *drug* experience. Gwen (thinking she has heard it all, but is wrong again)

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Anyone who has or dares to crush Klonopin and smoke it in a pipe, please let me know what results you’ve had. Did it give a flashlike effect of calmness? Or was there no result? just wondering nick

— Kiesha Van Dyke

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone who has or dares to crush Klonopin and smoke it in a pipe, please let me know what results you’ve had. Did it give a flashlike effect of calmness? Or was there no result? just wondering nick — Kiesha Van Dyke

Before we judge nick we should all think for a moment about what he is saying and asking. He was "just wondering" if this drug intake method produced a "flashlike effect of calmness."  If he is asking for advice, then this is the appropriate newsgroup to do so.  Also think about our own experiences with anxiety disorder.  Everyone of us at some point in our suffering has felt the need for a means of inducing instant relief.   We should approach this question with a non-judgemental and scholarly attitude.  Chastising someone in our same position with a treatment question goes against everything this group stands for. Sincerely, Tekbir — You may reach me on AOL’s Instant Messenger.  My screen name is TekbirAlim.

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