Emotional damage from neuroleptics. Only death awaits me.
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Spiritus wrote: > Of course my life is still empty and i need to do something about that. > I figure after I’ve fealt ok on these meds for a while something will > occurr to me to fill my life with meaning. But at the moment still > relatively meaningless.
Isn’t meaningfulness an illusion? Pana Seea
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In article <3BC3142E.6CCB2…@NOspam.net>, Pana Seea <NOs…@NOspam.net> wrote: > Spiritus wrote: > > Of course my life is still empty and i need to do something about that. > > I figure after I’ve fealt ok on these meds for a while something will > > occurr to me to fill my life with meaning. But at the moment still > > relatively meaningless. > Isn’t meaningfulness an illusion? > Pana Seea
Well if it is it’s an illusion I’d like to have, but I don’t. I don’t really go for the "everything in live is an illusion" thing. It may be an illusion but it’s real enough when you have to face it and deal with it every day. sp
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Spiritus wrote: > > Isn’t meaningfulness an illusion? > > Pana Seea > Well if it is it’s an illusion I’d like to have, but I don’t. > I don’t really go for the "everything in live is an illusion" thing. > It may be an illusion but it’s real enough when you have to face it and > deal with it every day. > sp
I was really referring to people’s *perceptions* of what is meaningful. When I was young a meaningful life meant being in a sexually intimate relationship and to fit into a peer group. Possibly to follow a "meaningful" cause. Later meaningfulness meant having financial security, having a fancy car, a house and a career and living the good life. Later still it meant to have greater philosophical understand about life and to pass this knowledge on. The search for understanding gave meaning at the time. These days I feel that all those pursuits were an illusion and merely a stepping stone to a greater realization that we weave purpose ourselves or have it woven for us out of a *desire* for purpose, not because it actually exists. I tend to agree with the belief that we chase something ephemeral…something which has no substance, …something which is simply a state of mind and which falls through our fingers when we think it attained. "Meaningfulness" is a vehicle rather than an attainable goal, imho. Pana Seea
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You have to be lost to be found just as you have to be dead to live. John 5:25 AV Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.
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>You have to be lost to be found just as you have to be dead to live.
well it looks like im in good shape then ; )
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"soggytrousers" <soggytrous…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:87bsjlqtki.fsf@liliwhite.open.oasis… > You have to be lost to be found just as you have to be dead to live. > John 5:25 AV Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and > now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of > God: and they that hear shall live.
"we will not know the hour or the day, but remember I come like a thief." I have often wondered about that………..why a thief????????? Maybe he is some stockbroker somewhere, fiddling the company’s bank account!!!! Michelle
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In article <9pjbfc$8m…@laurel.tc.umn.edu>, Alcanthus – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<hoelx…@gold.tc.umn.edu> wrote: > I was prescribed triavil about 18 years ago for obsesssive compulsive > disorder and depression. I immediately lost my emotional depth and felt like > an integral part of my personality dissappeared. The emotional flatness is > like a cold, icy winter compared to the hot, steamy emotional life I had > before. I’m taking some antidepressants now . I’ve tried all kinds of drugs. > I feel that I only have death to look forward. I’ve tried all kinds of > drugs. Nothing seems to help. I had an MRI of my brain 2 years ago. It > showed that my left ventricle was larger than my right. I’ve just read that > enlargement of this ventricle is associated with the negative symptoms of > schizophrenia. I might be willing to accept that I have this disorder, if > the definition of schizophrenia can be extended to those conditions caused > by neuroleptics. I really don’t know what to do. > Steve
Different meds? I’m on Zyprexa, Seroquell, Paxil, and Clonapine. I think I’ve finally found a combonation that works for me. Bye and large feel better than ever regarding my symptoms. Of course my life is still empty and i need to do something about that. I figure after I’ve fealt ok on these meds for a while something will occurr to me to fill my life with meaning. But at the moment still relatively meaningless. At least my meds are working ok. That’s something. SP
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I was prescribed triavil about 18 years ago for obsesssive compulsive disorder and depression. I immediately lost my emotional depth and felt like an integral part of my personality dissappeared. The emotional flatness is like a cold, icy winter compared to the hot, steamy emotional life I had before. I’m taking some antidepressants now . I’ve tried all kinds of drugs. I feel that I only have death to look forward. I’ve tried all kinds of drugs. Nothing seems to help. I had an MRI of my brain 2 years ago. It showed that my left ventricle was larger than my right. I’ve just read that enlargement of this ventricle is associated with the negative symptoms of schizophrenia. I might be willing to accept that I have this disorder, if the definition of schizophrenia can be extended to those conditions caused by neuroleptics. I really don’t know what to do. Steve
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Your saga seems to suggest that you have not had the right diagnosis and treatment. Some of the new high tech neuroleptics are not as nasty as the stuff from the past. IMHO, you should try some new doctors and maybe something like Geodon. There are people who have half their brain missing from childhood diseases, and yet function completely normaly. Enlarged vertricles as an adult is more serious, but I think there is room for hope. 1/3 of schizophrenics recover and never again have trouble. I don’t want to say that the neuroleptics didn’t do this, but there are other explanations that may be more probable. This group has a lot of experience. Maybe you could list your symptoms and the meds that you have tried….
