"It's Extremely Easy to Frighten People" (interview Noam Chomsky)
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[snip] We all have lack of awareness, that’s why we don’t realize our godly abilities.
Whoa Jim baby! "Godly abilities?" You’re further away from home than I thought!
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Just as insidious a barrier to spiritual development is a fascination with psychic powers and the subtle realms of Maya. That is where your "brotherhood" lies. It’s no closer to God than you are right now, but your expectations of what spiritual realization is prevent you from coming to see the truth.
You have given no indication that you have a clue as to what the truth is. Denying what I have said is proof that you have no idea. — Jim Scannell http://home.wi.rr.com/jscannell/ Gratitude (happiness), Faith and Hope are decisions !! You are not your body, your feelings or your ego – they are your tools. Transcend your ego to feel true love, your true self, and God.
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[snip] We all have lack of awareness, that’s why we don’t realize our godly abilities. Whoa Jim baby! "Godly abilities?" You’re further away from home than I thought!
What newsgroups did you mean to post to? — Jim Scannell http://home.wi.rr.com/jscannell/ Gratitude (happiness), Faith and Hope are decisions !! You are not your body, your feelings or your ego – they are your tools. Transcend your ego to feel true love, your true self, and God.
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Just as insidious a barrier to spiritual development is a fascination with psychic powers and the subtle realms of Maya. That is where your "brotherhood" lies. It’s no closer to God than you are right now, but your expectations of what spiritual realization is prevent you from coming to see the truth. You have given no indication that you have a clue as to what the truth is.
Perhaps you can’t see the clues as you’ve stuffed your head with silly expectations and fantasies. Denying what I have said is proof that you have no idea.
Believing what you’ve told us you believe is proof you would not be able to see the clues. — "One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by making the darkness conscious." –C. Jung
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – But it does allow you to think of yourself as a player in the "Hierarchy", doesn’t it? The idea of anyone thinking of himself/herself as a ‘player in the hierarchy’ and therefore better or more special than anyone else is vulgar. The Masters do form a hierarchy in the Brotherhood. They are past thinking that anyone is better or more special, however. But for all others that attitude shows a lack of awareness, not so much vulgarity. It is pride and prevents spiritual unfoldment.
Just as insidious a barrier to spiritual development is a fascination with psychic powers and the subtle realms of Maya. That is where your "brotherhood" lies. It’s no closer to God than you are right now, but your expectations of what spiritual realization is prevent you from coming to see the truth.
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<snip It’s a perversion of spirituality and utterly useless to those who are serious about self-understanding. We’re just looking from different angles.
Right. I’m talking about Self knowledge, you’re talking about a psychic carnival on a cloud somewhere. But it does allow you to think of yourself as a player in the "Hierarchy", doesn’t it? The idea of anyone thinking of himself/herself as a ‘player in the hierarchy’ and therefore better or more special than anyone else is vulgar.
It certainly is. Everyone who works towards improvements in/for the human family are in a sense players in the hierarchy – regardless of their personal philosophy or beliefs.
Outside of your belief that the "hierarchy" is run by Maitreya and his cronies with Ben Creme as their spokesperson. A good example are certain people like Chomsky (and others who were quoted in a recent post) – they’re promoting certain ideas that are essential components of human evolution and fulfilling aspects of the Plan. Most of those highly accomplished people incarnated with certain objectives – which they are accomplishing.
True, but that has nothing to do with your fantasy matrix. Of course, I don’t expect you to believe or accept that view.
Smart thinking T!
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But your use of the words, master and hierarchy, indicates special status and is the point you are trying to get across to the readers. It would be more accurate to call it special responsabilities. The point was that they don’t consider themselves to be special.
Is that what ‘they’ told you, or did you read it? Why are you promoting ignorance (unawareness)? I emphasize ignorance to encourage people to wake up. I assume you think you have lack of awareness and that you are saddled with pride. Is this the case? We all have lack of awareness, that’s why we don’t realize our godly abilities. Pride is the evil in every soul that needs to be attacked and rooted out. I am not alone in this.
Have you ever heard of Adi Da? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — Jim Scannell http://home.wi.rr.com/jscannell/ Gratitude (happiness), Faith and Hope are decisions !! You are not your body, your feelings or your ego – they are your tools. Transcend your ego to feel true love, your true self, and God.
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Allen Crider
Have you ever heard of Adi Da?
I have not. but I have heard of La di Da.
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As has happened in the past with great annoyance, this post mysteriously disappeared. NO PROBLEM. Mike Dubbeld Right on target – stupid junk as ususal. It is fitting that you bring out famous last words before the last election so as to see how wrong Chopsky was/what the majority of Americans think.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This is being posted because there are plenty of people who are interested in the topics/groups listed above, who truely want to know whats going on, and want to help heal the human family. Seek the truth, and it will set you free – Free from censored/corporate/gov’t approved news (propaganda) that would close the heart of humanity and cause even more needless pain and suffering Interview with Noam Chomsky "It’s Extremely Easy to Frighten People" Austin Chronicle: To what do you attribute the current administration pressure for a large-scale war?
To what do you attribute your ignornace for having asked such a question? Noam Chomsky: It’s certainly not for the stated reasons. Saddam Hussein is no more dangerous now than he was four years ago, and certainly not more than 12 years ago, when George Bush the First was happily providing him with the means to produce weapons of mass destruction, at a time when he was far more dangerous than he is today.
Not too swift Chompsky. Today he backs terrorists. Your logic escapes me how he is less dangerous. And incidentally, you’ll probably hear tonight in the speech about Saddam Hussein’s terrible crimes — gassing his own people, using chemical weapons of warfare, and so on — all of which are true. But what you won’t hear in the speech are the three little words: "with our help." Because Reagan and Bush continued to support him right through that period, they felt there was no big problem, and indeed they continued to provide him with the means to develop weapons of mass destruction. …
You will have to do better than that. This is say so. I say Show so. I think you are a liar. At that time the US was flying special missions to specifically knock out Saddhams helicopters and they had a no-fly zone. So where do you get off with these lies? So that can’t be the reason. The question is, why the timing? I suspect the timing has to do with two factors. One, the Bush administration has seized on the war on terror just as the Reagan administration did before it — it’s the same people, the same rhetoric and so on. They’ve seized on that as a means of doing exactly what they say in the National Security Strategy document [released by the White House Oct. 23]: trying to extend world domination, in which the U.S. will be the world’s dominant power. That’s what they’ve always wanted, and that’s what they want now. But they need a victory. They did whatever they did in Afghanistan, but now you’ve got to go and do something else. Iraq’s an easy target, defenseless basically — nobody’s going to defend Saddam Hussein, he’s a monster. So you can smash Iraq pretty much the way the Reagan administration kept pummeling Libya.
Chompsky is an idiot. He is clueless what the increased powers asked for were for because he is apparently a basket case about military power in regions of the world. The CIA was totally stripped of all its power years ago they are giving it back now because the rules of warfare have changed and other countries have taken advantage of the fact that the US has not kept pace with those changes. Bush is only leveling the playing field and shifting the emphasis. But more important than that is the domestic problem. The Bush administration is carrying out a significant assault against the American population. They very quickly drove the country into a big deficit, just the way they did when they were running the Reagan programs 20 years ago. That means that social spending will have to be cut back, which is in fact their main purpose — but that means there will be a serious cutback in health care, education, infrastructure development, protection of the environment, and so on. But people don’t like that sort of thing — it harms them. This is an assault on the general population for the benefit of very small sectors of power, and you have to keep people’s attention away from that. The best way to do that — everyone knows this, whether it’s a democratic leader or a military dictator — the best way to keep people’s attention away from what you’re doing to them is to frighten them.
Well Duh! I guess it must be news to you that wars cost money. But not near as much as you likely believe. The US conducts war games all the time. It is to a large degree a shifting of which parts of the planet these games are played/the money would have been spent anyway. AC: This particular strategy has a large chance of backfiring into wider war.
Woah! Stop right there. First of all who is AC – another greens peace idiot who is as clueless as my hind end? Where does this lame brain get off assuming a ‘large chance’ – who says it is a large chance and how did they arrive at this false idea? It is false and all of this is nothing more than a play on politics for the Democratic Party. The questions being asked are tailored to such ends – so who the hell is AC? Do you think this war strategy has some rational logic even from an imperial perspective?
War stategy? What war strategy? Did anyone declare war while I was sleeping last night? What makes something a war? For the US something is a war when the President declares war. All other military activities are Police Actions – as in they do not rate as wars. It is likely this AC bozo is as clueless as Chompsky. Wouldn’t know a dangerous situation if it jumped up and bit him. Doesn’t know either what military deployments are where or what such deployments mean. All he is is a ding dong reporter that has few choices of words in his vocabulary and one is war – simply because he can not distinguish between a wide range of gradients of action available. NC: Yes, I think it has a logic. You’re quite right, it could blow up, but that’s always true. This is the 40th anniversary of the Cuban missile crisis — what Khrushchev and Kennedy were doing then could have destroyed the world — they came pretty close. And the same is true over and over. But in the present case, I think the hawks, the Rumsfelds and Cheneys and the rest, have a reasonable expectation that their means of violence are so overwhelming as compared with any possible adversary, that not too much can go wrong. And if anything does go wrong they have plenty in reserve. That’s their calculation, and it could be right.
NOT could be Chompsky – IS RIGHT. They have access to information that you do not and more important know the difference between war and deterence. There are only a very limited number of things that can actually occur in Iraq. But all you people that have no knowledge of military deployments have run-away fears not knowing what could happen. Your ignorance makes you fearful. The very fact that Chompsky compares Iraq to Cuba should tell you exactly how ignorant he is. AC: Do think that opposition from ordinary citizens is stronger than it was 30 or 40 years ago? NC: Overwhelmingly.
Why don’t you overwhelmingly tell a great big fat lie. We just had elections. Or is this article before the elections – I bet it is. The American people sent a message on election day and overwhelmingly shows Chompsky to be wrong. The country’s just very different than it was 40 years ago, or even 20 years ago. There’s a lot more opposition to violence and aggression. Again, go back 40 years: This also happens to be the 40th anniversary of the public announcement by the Kennedy administration that the U.S. Air Force was bombing South Vietnam, that it was destroying food crops, that it was driving people into what amounted to concentration camps. There was no protest of the war [at that time]. Now the country has changed enough so that substantial protests take place even before a war, not seven years later. …
Translation: fear from ignorance. AC: Do you think that the opposition now is strong enough to make some difference in the short term? NC: I doubt it. I hope so, but I don’t think so. It’s very hard. It’s extremely easy to frighten people — it’s hard to explain to them, to get people to understand that the fear is manufactured.
You would know about this Chompsky. … When Rumsfeld gets up on television and says we have definitive intelligence that al Qaeda is working with Iraq, how is an ordinary citizen supposed to react? They won’t tell you the evidence, and when anyone asks, they say, "Well, you know: It’s secret. …"
Your darn right it is. You do not have the security clearance to know how they know. AC: Can any coalition of other states provide some kind of counterweight to U.S. power? NC: This is an open question. … But I don’t see any particular signs of it. The U.S. military preponderance is so overwhelming — there’s never been anything remotely like it in history — that people are frightened. It has been pointed out … that the current Bush administration policies are compelling countries to develop weapons of mass destruction as a deterrent. They can’t stop the United States by conventional forces.
The nature of warefare had changed. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Remember, weapons of mass destruction don’t mean missiles. It’s been understood for years, long before September 11, that it wouldn’t be very hard, say, to smuggle parts of a nuclear weapon into a hotel room in New York and put it together, in addition to a whole number of other options. Technical papers have been saying "national
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[snip] Who’s gonna put some of that in their pipe and smoke it? Just keep your consciousness high – centered on the ajna center and see what comesup on your screen.
Who needs dope with all that ascended masters crap you’re smoking! What’s coming up on your screen is your own imagination. You’ve internalized and learned to project your own silly kid’s novel on that screen, tailored to meet your every expectation. It’s a perversion of spirituality and utterly useless to those who are serious about self-understanding. But it does allow you to think of yourself as a player in the "Hierarchy", doesn’t it?
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It’s a perversion of spirituality and utterly useless to those who are serious about self-understanding.
Are you referring to yourself? I have seen no evidence that you are serious about self-understanding. Just an observation – I don’t care for you to prove it, but I’d appreciate you not proving the reverse anymore than you have. — Jim Scannell http://home.wi.rr.com/jscannell/ Gratitude (happiness), Faith and Hope are decisions !! You are not your body, your feelings or your ego – they are your tools. Transcend your ego to feel true love and get close to God.
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It’s a perversion of spirituality and utterly useless to those who are serious about self-understanding. Are you referring to yourself? I have seen no evidence that you are serious about self-understanding.
You wouldn’t be able to anyway with all those ascended masters flying around in your head. [snip]
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<snip It’s a perversion of spirituality and utterly useless to those who are serious about self-understanding.
We’re just looking from different angles. But it does allow you to think of yourself as a player in the "Hierarchy", doesn’t it?
The idea of anyone thinking of himself/herself as a ‘player in the hierarchy’ and therefore better or more special than anyone else is vulgar. Everyone who works towards improvements in/for the human family are in a sense players in the hierarchy – regardless of their personal philosophy or beliefs. A good example are certain people like Chomsky (and others who were quoted in a recent post) – they’re promoting certain ideas that are essential components of human evolution and fulfilling aspects of the Plan. Most of those highly accomplished people incarnated with certain objectives – which they are accomplishing. Of course, I don’t expect you to believe or accept that view.
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But your use of the words, master and hierarchy, indicates special status and is the point you are trying to get across to the readers.
It would be more accurate to call it special responsabilities. The point was that they don’t consider themselves to be special. Why are you promoting ignorance (unawareness)?
I emphasize ignorance to encourage people to wake up. I assume you think you have lack of awareness and that you are saddled with pride. Is this the case?
We all have lack of awareness, that’s why we don’t realize our godly abilities. Pride is the evil in every soul that needs to be attacked and rooted out. I am not alone in this. — Jim Scannell http://home.wi.rr.com/jscannell/ Gratitude (happiness), Faith and Hope are decisions !! You are not your body, your feelings or your ego – they are your tools. Transcend your ego to feel true love, your true self, and God.
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<snip But really, Dotty… how come you never spam the Christians? According to commonly accepted definitions of spam (as i’ve pointed out 20 or more times to you before) what I post is not spam. Why must you use your own unique definition for the word and try to deceive people and get them to use your definition?
Dotty, how come you never spam the Christians? And why can’t you answer this question? Do you know why you do the things you do? Try spending a little less time wanking with your third eye and try seeing yourself as you really are. I’d really like to know why your cult doesn’t bother spamming the Christians. Why are they wasting their efforts with this current ecclectic mix of disinterested newsgroups? Why don’t you leave us alone? "us"?? Who are you speaking for? Some group of cynical, habitual liars who try to censor material that they don’t like? I have no interest in pleasing such people.
You seem to have no interest in pleasing anybody, Dotty. You are welcome to spam here, of course, and I can’t censor your nauseating little drama spams. But I do think they are funny, and I would hate to see anybody end up like you, so I work to point out some ’spiritual errors’ of your crappy nonsense. Now, what’s so bad about that? We are working together to keep Share International small. We are working together to expose the fraud that Ben Creme attempts to perpetuate. Dotty, we’re the TEAM FOR THE INNER LIFE, you and me! Let’s get you pleasant by moving your spam to another newsgroup. MMMMMK? If you want to moderate a newsgroup, get your own. If you want to censor information – do it somewhere else. If you want to be taken seriously, quit lying and attempting to deceive people.
Dotty, the point is, if you want to promote your little spam cult, you won’t hook any recruits by posting on the bailey newsgroup. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You don’t have to freak out over anything I post for ever. I don’t freak out, Dotty, I laugh at your silly nonsense spam cult. I feel sorry for you, really! But there’s help. You are not alone. Many people have escaped the yoke of Religious Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (ROCD). There’s spiritual freedom awaiting you: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2014244.stm http://www.ex-cult.org Feeling is one thing. Thinking is quite another. There is a difference between the two. My posts aren’t spam and I’m not in any cult. You are a fool to spread lies, and a fool to try to control me or anyone other than yourself.
I’m not controlling you, you are coming at me with your cult spam. I don’t seek out your off-topic trolls, they come to me in the bailey newsgroup. I read them and they are silly enough to make me laugh, thus I’m having fun at your expense but without goading you. If you don’t want me to comment on your lame sicko cult, don’t bother posting to the bailey newsgroup. If you want me to poke fun at Ben Creme or whatever old fart you are hot for, then don’t spam the bailey newsgroup. Deception and lying doesn’t help anyone – except for those who support the dark forces – and their days are numbered.
That means you are going away? What did you say your name is? Aren’t you the one who said that Dubya Bush is possessed by evil spirits? Never a dull moment!! How do you sleep at night with all those boogey men running around? <http://groups.google.com/groups?q=evil+spirits+author:Tecumseh&hl=en&… the door where evil dwells will soon be shut.
Funny, I thought it says "The door where Elvis dwells". Good bye, Dotty!
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As Chomsky said – it’s easy to frighten people – and sadly that’s just what our blind leaders are doing. Evidently the corporate dogs in power are afraid of peace. Afraid that if peace broke out that they would not be able to find another scam as good as the military industrial complex. Keeping the people afraid will definitely allow them to keep and maintain a vast, state of the art military, with hundreds of thousands of weapons of mass distruction. All of that money is wasted. Those guys will soon fall and they won’t be back in power. This dark chapter in man’s history is about to end and a new lovely chapter will soon begin. One thing to keep in mind is that when the pictures painted for the people are based on half-truths, lies and other misconceptions, then their view of reality is also fictitious.
<snip But really, Dotty… how come you never spam the Christians?
According to commonly accepted definitions of spam (as i’ve pointed out 20 or more times to you before) what I post is not spam. Why must you use your own unique definition for the word and try to deceive people and get them to use your definition? Why don’t you leave us alone?
"us"?? Who are you speaking for? Some group of cynical, habitual liars who try to censor material that they don’t like? I have no interest in pleasing such people. Let’s get you pleasant by moving your spam to another newsgroup. MMMMMK?
If you want to moderate a newsgroup, get your own. If you want to censor information – do it somewhere else. If you want to be taken seriously, quit lying and attempting to deceive people. You don’t have to freak out over anything I post for ever. I don’t freak out, Dotty, I laugh at your silly nonsense spam cult. I feel
<snip Feeling is one thing. Thinking is quite another. There is a difference between the two. My posts aren’t spam and I’m not in any cult. You are a fool to spread lies, and a fool to try to control me or anyone other than yourself. Deception and lying doesn’t help anyone – except for those who support the dark forces – and their days are numbered. The door where evil dwells will soon be shut. Max
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – But it does allow you to think of yourself as a player in the "Hierarchy", doesn’t it? The idea of anyone thinking of himself/herself as a ‘player in the hierarchy’ and therefore better or more special than anyone else is vulgar. The Masters do form a hierarchy in the Brotherhood. They are past thinking that anyone is better or more special, however. But for all others that attitude shows a lack of awareness, not so much vulgarity. It is pride and prevents spiritual unfoldment.
But your use of the words, master and hierarchy, indicates special status and is the point you are trying to get across to the readers. Why are you promoting ignorance (unawareness)? I assume you think you have lack of awareness and that you are saddled with pride. Is this the case? Wade
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But it does allow you to think of yourself as a player in the "Hierarchy", doesn’t it? The idea of anyone thinking of himself/herself as a ‘player in the hierarchy’ and therefore better or more special than anyone else is vulgar. The Masters do form a hierarchy in the Brotherhood.
Do they have any girlfriends? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – They are past thinking that anyone is better or more special, however. But for all others that attitude shows a lack of awareness, not so much vulgarity. It is pride and prevents spiritual unfoldment. — Jim Scannell http://home.wi.rr.com/jscannell/ Gratitude (happiness), Faith and Hope are decisions !! You are not your body, your feelings or your ego – they are your tools. Transcend your ego to feel true love, your true self, and God.
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But it does allow you to think of yourself as a player in the "Hierarchy", doesn’t it? The idea of anyone thinking of himself/herself as a ‘player in the hierarchy’ and therefore better or more special than anyone else is vulgar.
The Masters do form a hierarchy in the Brotherhood. They are past thinking that anyone is better or more special, however. But for all others that attitude shows a lack of awareness, not so much vulgarity. It is pride and prevents spiritual unfoldment. — Jim Scannell http://home.wi.rr.com/jscannell/ Gratitude (happiness), Faith and Hope are decisions !! You are not your body, your feelings or your ego – they are your tools. Transcend your ego to feel true love, your true self, and God.
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It’s a perversion of spirituality and utterly useless to those who are serious about self-understanding. We’re just looking from different angles.
Your angle is to put pictures into your third eye. For extremely long periods of time. This is the practice of charlatans. A good example are certain people like Chomsky
Why do you fawn over doddering old men?
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Why does this spammer not leave us alone and focus on Christian newsgroups for their second-coming-of-Christ cult? Because the Xtians despise this Maitreya spam cult. Your obsession prevents you at times from seeing anything other that which freaks you out, – even when it is not there.
Like Maitreya? Maitreya isn’t there! But really, Dotty… how come you never spam the Christians? Why don’t you leave us alone? If your Maitreya nose-picking, mouth-breathing avatar is supposed to be Christ, why don’t you spam to the Christians? They’re the people who are supposed to be on your beam. Different rays have different ways, Dotty! Sometime in this life of yours, I hope that you’ll be able to quiet/calm your mind enough see that people can be pleasant to each other even though their beliefs may be radically different and that you’ll want to work with people like that.
Let’s get you pleasant by moving your spam to another newsgroup. MMMMMK? You don’t have to freak out over anything I post for ever.
I don’t freak out, Dotty, I laugh at your silly nonsense spam cult. I feel sorry for you, really! But there’s help. You are not alone. Many people have escaped the yoke of Religious Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (ROCD). There’s spiritual freedom awaiting you: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2014244.stm http://www.ex-cult.org In other words, why don’t you chill?
Chill? All I do is read the bailey newsgroup. Semi-Free country (free because Ben Creme doesn’t run the country). If there is something that is totally off topic, something that is a recruitment for a cult or a pandering political troll, then I might as well speak up. And you know I always speak up against your spam. If you do the same thing (post off-topic spam) you will get my reply. Don’t expect different results by doing the same thing over and over. Let that be a life lesson for you Dotty: If you want different results, change your actions. Go and spam to a different newsgroup and you’ll get different results. But stop spamming the bailey newsgroup first because you will get the same results! If you keep doing the same thing over and over and over again, you face more years and years of not getting any recruits for your cult. No karma brownie points for you! If NO RECRUITS is what you really want, then I’m glad to help. After all, nobody wants to be responsible for dragging an innocent person of goodwill down into the abyss of a terrible, deceitful cult. http://216.92.170.235/mayatreya We’re like Mutt and Jeff! You are the humorless spammer, and I make fun of your cult. Perfect! Who wants to join the SI cult? The world is going through some tremendous changes
Are you just beginning to realize this? Maybe in a few years you will realize that the world always goes through ‘tremendous’ changes. How does it feel to be such a loser? No Maitreya appears after all these years, your political whining foiled by a republican takeover of all 3 branches of the government. You always lose because you are attached to outcomes and you are attached to the world of maya. You are opposed to so, so many things, including your fellow human beings. You are opposed to forces in a world which you have no control. Take up some magic and use your force to ally with other like forces. Group work toward a positive purpose accomplishes so much more than an opposition of singularity. After a few months absence from the bailey newsgroup, you might actually be missed. Please note followup newsgroup. This newsgroup is Made to Order for Dotty the Spammer. Please respond to that newsgroup ONLY. Add other interested newsgroups to talk.religion.newage and see what happens. Who knows? Maybe without my constant usenet companionship, you can break free of your 000 batting average and hook some hapless recruit. How much money will SI give you if you hook a fresh one? That is all. Over and out. Goodbye.
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Why does this spammer not leave us alone and focus on Christian newsgroups for their second-coming-of-Christ cult? Because the Xtians despise this Maitreya spam cult.
Your obsession prevents you at times from seeing anything other that which freaks you out, – even when it is not there. Sometime in this life of yours, I hope that you’ll be able to quiet/calm your mind enough see that people can be pleasant to each other even though their beliefs may be radically different and that you’ll want to work with people like that. You don’t have to freak out over anything I post for ever. In other words, why don’t you chill? The world is going through some tremendous changes – that are going to happen whether you resist them or not, and regardless of whether Creme is right or wrong, and all will be eventually be well. Lots of people have noticed that these are very special days on Earth – maybe the worst time in thousands of years for people to keep their heads in the sand. My philosophy of the way things are on the international stage, is radically different from almost everyone whom I interact with each day – and we know it. Despite that, we cooperate towards the acomplishment of common goals and we like to be around each other. Helping people begin to see through the thick curtain of propaganda, to see the criminal nature of any war, and the senselessness of extreme poverty and starvation in this world of plenty are things that positive people all over the world are working on. With each passing day, the potency of the Aquarian energies flowing to this planet are increasing, and those rays are radiating the conciousness of thousands all over the world – regardless of what they believe. The light will become brighter and brighter as time proceeds, even though energetic opposites are are all over the news. It’s been prophezized in one symbolic form or another in most ancient texts from all the religions and is unpreventable. Find a way to help instead of fighting it, that is – unless you’re dead set on devolving or taking on more bad karma – or whatever!
As this country reaps, so will it sow and people are seeing that, and many want to see it sow seeds of beauty and justice, not seeds of suffering, death, and blantant exploitation. The government represents corporate American fatcats, not the people. That corrupt system (aka: the status quo) is crumbling to pieces – it cannot be supported by the new energies, so it too will pass. Like it or not. Resistance to the inevitable changes (including a brotherhood of man and even all the people living in peace) will not be successful. The battle will soon be over. It might take 2 or 3 hundred years, but the future will be definitely be very good for everyone. Imagine participative government with the fruit of the labors of the people actually benefiting them, rather than the shrewest, and greediest folks around. Imagine robots working by and for *all* the people. Imagine this big house being in order. That’s precisely whats coming – as has been known for thousands of years. The kingdom will come. "God’s" Will will be done. On Earth, as it is planned on at Shamballa. Utopians are realists. We can do better, we will do better – cynics and pessimists have their places, but if they meditate – I wouldn’t be surprised if they had a weird attraction to black fingernail polish, deception, self-inflicted pain, and/or chaos. Part of the evolutionary plan for mankind involves the elimination of the illusion of time. Part of the Glory of the coming of the Lord…
Who’s gonna put some of that in their pipe and smoke it? Just keep your consciousness high – centered on the ajna center and see what comesup on your screen. As Sting sings "and we’ll walk in fields of Gold." but in the mean time, "all the angels, all the devils. Look around us, can’t you see?" just remember "Love is the seventh wave – nothing will Its powers withstand!"
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Right on target – stupid junk as ususal. It is fitting that you bring out famous last words before the last election so as to see how wrong Chopsky was/what the majority of Americans think.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This is being posted because there are plenty of people who are interested in the topics/groups listed above, who truely want to know whats going on, and want to help heal the human family. Seek the truth, and it will set you free – Free from censored/corporate/gov’t approved news (propaganda) that would close the heart of humanity and cause even more needless pain and suffering Interview with Noam Chomsky "It’s Extremely Easy to Frighten People" Austin Chronicle: To what do you attribute the current administration pressure for a large-scale war?
To what do you attribute your ignornace for having asked such a question? Noam Chomsky: It’s certainly not for the stated reasons. Saddam Hussein is no more dangerous now than he was four years ago, and certainly not more than 12 years ago, when George Bush the First was happily providing him with the means to produce weapons of mass destruction, at a time when he was far more dangerous than he is today.
Not too swift Chompsky. Today he backs terrorists. Your logic escapes me how he is less dangerous. And incidentally, you’ll probably hear tonight in the speech about Saddam Hussein’s terrible crimes — gassing his own people, using chemical weapons of warfare, and so on — all of which are true. But what you won’t hear in the speech are the three little words: "with our help." Because Reagan and Bush continued to support him right through that period, they felt there was no big problem, and indeed they continued to provide him with the means to develop weapons of mass destruction. …
You will have to do better than that. This is say so. I say Show so. I think you are a liar. At that time the US was flying special missions to specifically knock out Saddhams helicopters and they had a no-fly zone. So where do you get off with these lies? So that can’t be the reason. The question is, why the timing? I suspect the timing has to do with two factors. One, the Bush administration has seized on the war on terror just as the Reagan administration did before it — it’s the same people, the same rhetoric and so on. They’ve seized on that as a means of doing exactly what they say in the National Security Strategy document [released by the White House Oct. 23]: trying to extend world domination, in which the U.S. will be the world’s dominant power. That’s what they’ve always wanted, and that’s what they want now. But they need a victory. They did whatever they did in Afghanistan, but now you’ve got to go and do something else. Iraq’s an easy target, defenseless basically — nobody’s going to defend Saddam Hussein, he’s a monster. So you can smash Iraq pretty much the way the Reagan administration kept pummeling Libya.
Chompsky is an idiot. He is clueless what the increased powers asked for were for because he is apparently a basket case about military power in regions of the world. The CIA was totally stripped of all its power years ago they are giving it back now because the rules of warfare have changed and other countries have taken advantage of the fact that the US has not kept pace with those changes. Bush is only leveling the playing field and shifting the emphasis. But more important than that is the domestic problem. The Bush administration is carrying out a significant assault against the American population. They very quickly drove the country into a big deficit, just the way they did when they were running the Reagan programs 20 years ago. That means that social spending will have to be cut back, which is in fact their main purpose — but that means there will be a serious cutback in health care, education, infrastructure development, protection of the environment, and so on. But people don’t like that sort of thing — it harms them. This is an assault on the general population for the benefit of very small sectors of power, and you have to keep people’s attention away from that. The best way to do that — everyone knows this, whether it’s a democratic leader or a military dictator — the best way to keep people’s attention away from what you’re doing to them is to frighten them.
Well Duh! I guess it must be news to you that wars cost money. But not near as much as you likely believe. The US conducts war games all the time. It is to a large degree a shifting of which parts of the planet these games are played/the money would have been spent anyway. AC: This particular strategy has a large chance of backfiring into wider war.
Woah! Stop right there. First of all who is AC – another greens peace idiot who is as clueless as my hind end? Where does this lame brain get off assuming a ‘large chance’ – who says it is a large chance and how did they arrive at this false idea? It is false and all of this is nothing more than a play on politics for the Democratic Party. The questions being asked are tailored to such ends – so who the hell is AC? Do you think this war strategy has some rational logic even from an imperial perspective?
War stategy? What war strategy? Did anyone declare war while I was sleeping last night? What makes something a war? For the US something is a war when the President declares war. All other military activities are Police Actions – as in they do not rate as wars. It is likely this AC bozo is as clueless as Chompsky. Wouldn’t know a dangerous situation if it jumped up and bit him. Doesn’t know either what military deployments are where or what such deployments mean. All he is is a ding dong reporter that has few choices of words in his vocabulary and one is war – simply because he can not distinguish between a wide range of gradients of action available. NC: Yes, I think it has a logic. You’re quite right, it could blow up, but that’s always true. This is the 40th anniversary of the Cuban missile crisis — what Khrushchev and Kennedy were doing then could have destroyed the world — they came pretty close. And the same is true over and over. But in the present case, I think the hawks, the Rumsfelds and Cheneys and the rest, have a reasonable expectation that their means of violence are so overwhelming as compared with any possible adversary, that not too much can go wrong. And if anything does go wrong they have plenty in reserve. That’s their calculation, and it could be right.
NOT could be Chompsky – IS RIGHT. They have access to information that you do not and more important know the difference between war and deterence. There are only a very limited number of things that can actually occur in Iraq. But all you people that have no knowledge of military deployments have run-away fears not knowing what could happen. Your ignorance makes you fearful. The very fact that Chompsky compares Iraq to Cuba should tell you exactly how ignorant he is. AC: Do think that opposition from ordinary citizens is stronger than it was 30 or 40 years ago? NC: Overwhelmingly.
Why don’t you overwhelmingly tell a great big fat lie. We just had elections. Or is this article before the elections – I bet it is. The American people sent a message on election day and overwhelmingly shows Chompsky to be wrong. The country’s just very different than it was 40 years ago, or even 20 years ago. There’s a lot more opposition to violence and aggression. Again, go back 40 years: This also happens to be the 40th anniversary of the public announcement by the Kennedy administration that the U.S. Air Force was bombing South Vietnam, that it was destroying food crops, that it was driving people into what amounted to concentration camps. There was no protest of the war [at that time]. Now the country has changed enough so that substantial protests take place even before a war, not seven years later. …
Translation: fear from ignorance. AC: Do you think that the opposition now is strong enough to make some difference in the short term? NC: I doubt it. I hope so, but I don’t think so. It’s very hard. It’s extremely easy to frighten people — it’s hard to explain to them, to get people to understand that the fear is manufactured.
You would know about this Chompsky. … When Rumsfeld gets up on television and says we have definitive intelligence that al Qaeda is working with Iraq, how is an ordinary citizen supposed to react? They won’t tell you the evidence, and when anyone asks, they say, "Well, you know: It’s secret. …"
Your darn right it is. You do not have the security clearance to know how they know. AC: Can any coalition of other states provide some kind of counterweight to U.S. power? NC: This is an open question. … But I don’t see any particular signs of it. The U.S. military preponderance is so overwhelming — there’s never been anything remotely like it in history — that people are frightened. It has been pointed out … that the current Bush administration policies are compelling countries to develop weapons of mass destruction as a deterrent. They can’t stop the United States by conventional forces.
The nature of warefare had changed. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Remember, weapons of mass destruction don’t mean missiles. It’s been understood for years, long before September 11, that it wouldn’t be very hard, say, to smuggle parts of a nuclear weapon into a hotel room in New York and put it together, in addition to a whole number of other options. Technical papers have been saying "national missile defense" is a joke for exactly that reason. No country is going to be crazy enough to launch a
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