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I’m wondering if anyone can help. Muggles has turned mean.  Very mean. He’s attacking Kid and I don’t know why and I’ve tried to handle it for nearly 2 months and it continues. She does nothing, she just sits there, lays there, or runs away when he goes all weird and then he attacks her and sometimes she doesn’t run away. It’s to the point I cannot leave them unsupervised or home alone together.

Can you try re-introducing them?  Separating them for a while and gradually getting them together again?  Is Muggles mean with you?  He may need kitty prozac.  I think I’d talk with TED about it and see what he says, and then re-introduce them as part of his treatment.  Whatever you decide to do, the kitties are purring and we’re sending relaxing thoughts towards Muggles. Pam, Rob, and the NC nine

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I have no ideas unfortunately, except maybe keeping him in a room by himself for a while after he attacks Kid. Lots of purrs and best wishes, — Polonca & Soncek

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Fuga was mounting and trying to mate Java 20 times a day.  I went in and I spoke to the vet about what options were available.  She told me that we needed to separate Fuga and Java and slowly re-introduce them.  We kept them separate for about 4 days.  Java started getting depressed and thought that she was being punished so we stopped. Basically we kept rotating the room she was in and would keep her away from fuga, so sometimes she was locked in the office and sometimes she had access to the whole apartment. Eventually fuga’s behaviour stopped and anytime it started we isolated him for about 15 min to 1 hour.  Now he only goes after Java about once  a week.. My vet told us that as soon as a problem behaviour arises you have to do something about it quickly.. otherwise it become more difficult to break. Good luck..  I will keep my fingers crossed that Muggles settles down quickly. I hope he’s not suffering too much from megacolon. Fuga

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I’m wondering if anyone can help.

I wish I could help, but I can only send Muggles-calm-down-and-leave-Kid-alone purrs, so lots of those and a scritch to poor Kid. — Marina, Frank and Nikki

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Maybe Feliway would help? — Victor M. Martinez http://www.che.utexas.edu/~martiv

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m wondering if anyone can help. Muggles has turned mean.  Very mean. He’s attacking Kid and I don’t know why and I’ve tried to handle it for nearly 2 months and it continues. She does nothing, she just sits there, lays there, or runs away when he goes all weird and then he attacks her and sometimes she doesn’t run away. It’s to the point I cannot leave them unsupervised or home alone together. He knows what he’s doing is bad.  He gets a funny squeak and I break them up, but he gets spooked cause he knows what he’s doing is bad and he runs away with his ears back. Sometimes I don’t break them up in time and I yell "NO" and he runs away all scared like — so he knows better but he’s been doing this for like two months. He gets the spray bottle or "NO" and he still continues doing this. I don’t know what to do. I don’t want to permanently drug him, he’s fixed of course and so is she, they’ve been together all their lives (they’re both 2) and Rescue Remedy doesn’t work on him.  I’m going to order feliway now I’ve tried Rescue remedy but if that doesn’t work I don’t know what to do.  Right now I cannot afford a behaviorist (even if it would work for a dumb cat), and he’s recently had all his tests done with that bowel thing (he’s been fine for over a month) and tests all turned up regular. On top of all of this, he is totally stupid. This change started when he came back from the vets (his megacolon) and Kid hissed at him for a few days.  She’s fine now, but he started being aggressive and it hasn’t gone away. He’s always kind of not left her alone and gotten weird with her sometimes (like when she’s in the litterbox and sometimes in summer when he humps her) but he’s never been this agressive, never like this.  She’s not doing anything to him, just minding her own business (until he attacks her, then she screams). I really need help suggestions of things I can try, because Kid can’t have this she has enough problems as it is. This is not normal play. Jen.

I am not an expert, but I read that neutering does not take away the desire — only the ability especially in male cats.  It sounds like s frustrated kitty.   Keeping him away from her seems to be the best idea.  

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  I’ve been told that Elavil is the version that they give to cats though (I   know there’s a difference in the human prozac from elavil, becuase people   take elavil too). Least, that’s what they said when Muggles got it.  Do   cats actually get perscribed prozac proper? It seems a little odd to me that vets would prescribe Elavil to cats and call it Prozac… what would be the purpose of that? Joyce, having a cup of tea, but I’ve decided to call it sushi. :)

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  I’ve been told that Elavil is the version that they give to cats though (I   know there’s a difference in the human prozac from elavil, becuase people   take elavil too). Least, that’s what they said when Muggles got it.  Do   cats actually get perscribed prozac proper? It seems a little odd to me that vets would prescribe Elavil to cats and call it Prozac… what would be the purpose of that? Joyce, having a cup of tea, but I’ve decided to call it sushi. :)

No, that’s not what I said.  They didn’t actually ever call it prozac, but said it had a similar effect, and that’s what they gave to cats. I know they are different, but I don’t know if they give prozac to acts, or if they give elavil instead. I was just wondering if you know. Jen.

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Thanks =)   Maybe it’s all the boy cats teaming up that’s making Muggles feel too cocky.  Maybe Muggles isn’t as dim as we thought!

Frank sometimes surprises me that way, too. ;o) Sharon, you should see Jinkydink though – he’s way too smart for his britches.  He actually escaped out of our enclosure too.

Oh, my, how scary, Jen! What a little rascal! I hope he learned his lesson and doesn’t try that again. Were you able to fix it so he can’t pry the roof open again? — Marina

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I’m wondering if anyone can help. Muggles has turned mean.  

(snippety) Jen.

I’m sorry I have no suggestion, Jen – I have only ever dealt with one cat at a time, so I don’t have a clue what to do.  We are sending purrs, though, to Muggles, though since Mike is a mean cat too, I am just hoping they don’t make the situation worse with a multiplication of the meanness.  :-) —— Krista

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I’m glad Muggles health it good.  Keep us posted on sweet kid’s freedom from terror.

Thanks =)   Maybe it’s all the boy cats teaming up that’s making Muggles feel too cocky.  Maybe Muggles isn’t as dim as we thought! Sharon, you should see Jinkydink though – he’s way too smart for his britches.  He actually escaped out of our enclosure too.  The only way he could have gotten out is, get this, by climbing up the enclosure wall, hanging upside down and making his way across the roof of the enclosure (inside, hanging upside down like a bat), somehow looping himself up and around and squeezing through a hole in the top with the plastic-chicken wire on either side of him (like a narrow tight tunnel, because we overlapped the top to make it "safer" — and making his way out to on top of the enclosure. Then he was up on the roof, outside our upstairs computer room. We found him when he was *climbing the outside of our bug screen* on the upstairs computer room window.  We heard the tell-tale "clink clink" of him climbing and thought "we didn’t hear him come in…", looked over and he was OUT!  We freaked out, and then got him down by tearing apart some of the ‘not-so-enclosure’.  He was terrified, becuase he got out, and Muggles and Kid were SO worried (it’s funny how they can become so expressive).  We were terrified, and also amazed and shocked at his escape, but glad he started bleating while climbing the upstairs window screen!! Jen.

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I’m sorry, but don’t have any constructive suggestions – unless he might be on some meds after he’s earlier troubles. I wouldn’t have even thought of this if I hadn’t just posted a reply to the thread dealing with flagyl (metronidazole). That got me to remembering that one of the possible side effects of flagyl is confusion and irritability. Another possibility is a change in diet – I know I can be a bit touchy when on a diet ;-) Whatever the cause, I agree with those who are suggesting a temporary separation, as you don’t want him to learn any bad habits which might continue after the cause is gone.

Yeah, that would definitely be a first thought, but he’s not on any meds at all and he’s eating his regular assortment of foods he’s had.  Although, I might just change it again incase somethings up with that.  What makes me think it’s behavior as opposed to biological is that he’s only acting up with Kid and no one else.  He’s fine with Jinks, and us but not with Kid. I sense something weird happened when we brought him home from the vets all that time ago, and it’s just gotten worse. Anyway, I’ll do separation and see where it goes. Jen.

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thanks everyone for purrs. Jen.

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  I definitely want to stay away from the drugs if possible (he has had   Elavil, which is the prozac, once before). I can understand trying to avoid drugs if you can – why introduce another complication, with potential side effects you don’t want, into his life? But I just want to say to the above comment that Prozac is nothing like Elavil. Elavil is an old medication and definitely leaves a person (and therefore, probably a cat, too) feeling drugged, whereas Prozac has far fewer side effects (which is one reason for its popularity). Joyce

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I’m glad Muggles health it good.  Keep us posted on sweet kid’s freedom from terror. Fuga

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  I definitely want to stay away from the drugs if possible (he has had   Elavil, which is the prozac, once before). I can understand trying to avoid drugs if you can – why introduce another complication, with potential side effects you don’t want, into his life? But I just want to say to the above comment that Prozac is nothing like Elavil. Elavil is an old medication and definitely leaves a person (and therefore, probably a cat, too) feeling drugged, whereas Prozac has far fewer side effects (which is one reason for its popularity). Joyce

I’ve been told that Elavil is the version that they give to cats though (I know there’s a difference in the human prozac from elavil, becuase people take elavil too). Least, that’s what they said when Muggles got it.  Do cats actually get perscribed prozac proper? Jen.

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Yep, that’s what I’ve ordered. Jen. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Maybe Feliway would help? — Victor M. Martinez http://www.che.utexas.edu/~martiv

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I am not an expert, but I read that neutering does not take away the desire — only the ability especially in male cats.  It sounds like s frustrated kitty.   Keeping him away from her seems to be the best idea.

I think it takes away some of the desire, which is why they don’t want to roam anymore.  From what I’ve seen and heard it doesn’t take away everything though =)  From what I can tell, he isn’t trying to hump her like before (at least, not all the time).  The actions are usually quite different. I can’t keep them isolated for the next 14 years though. Jen.

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Or perhaps, as someone else has sugggested, talking to the vet about kitty prozac. If administered in careful doses, it doesn’t have to make the kitty sluggish. Dan

He’s had it before (Elavil), but it’s definitely a final resort =) Jen.

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Yeah, I think that this is what we’ll have to do.  It’s no big deal really, because Kid stays with us most of the day as it is, and when we sleep the boy cats go to the catroom anyway (where they’re perfectly happy beacuse they always get fed when they’re in there) – and she runs around the place like a madwoman. So the "other times" aren’t all that much time at all. I really don’t think he’s trying to hump her again like he used to.  Dunno. Doesn’t look like he has a chronic megacolon.  We weaned him off the Lactulose when he started getting regular "movements", and he’s been absolutely fine.  Hopefully that’ll continue. I figure he must have eaten something he shouldn’t have that bunged him up big time. But the pipes clear just fine nowadays and he’s having a blast causing mayhem for Kid. Jen.

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Can you try re-introducing them?  Separating them for a while and gradually getting them together again?  Is Muggles mean with you?

Not mean with anyone other than Kid (fine with me, Jinks, and Pete), and he’s not consistently mean with her either – sometimes he’s very nice to her. He may need kitty prozac.  I think I’d talk with TED about it and see what he says, and then re-introduce them as part of his treatment.  Whatever you decide to do, the kitties are purring and we’re sending relaxing thoughts towards Muggles.

I definitely want to stay away from the drugs if possible (he has had Elavil, which is the prozac, once before). But if reintroducing doesn’t work, then that might be what we have to do.  I sure hope not… Jen.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m wondering if anyone can help. Muggles has turned mean.  Very mean. He’s attacking Kid and I don’t know why and I’ve tried to handle it for nearly 2 months and it continues. She does nothing, she just sits there, lays there, or runs away when he goes all weird and then he attacks her and sometimes she doesn’t run away. It’s to the point I cannot leave them unsupervised or home alone together. He knows what he’s doing is bad.  He gets a funny squeak and I break them up, but he gets spooked cause he knows what he’s doing is bad and he runs away with his ears back. Sometimes I don’t break them up in time and I yell "NO" and he runs away all scared like — so he knows better but he’s been doing this for like two months. He gets the spray bottle or "NO" and he still continues doing this. I don’t know what to do. I don’t want to permanently drug him, he’s fixed of course and so is she, they’ve been together all their lives (they’re both 2) and Rescue Remedy doesn’t work on him.  I’m going to order feliway now I’ve tried Rescue remedy but if that doesn’t work I don’t know what to do.  Right now I cannot afford a behaviorist (even if it would work for a dumb cat), and he’s recently had all his tests done with that bowel thing (he’s been fine for over a month) and tests all turned up regular. On top of all of this, he is totally stupid. This change started when he came back from the vets (his megacolon) and Kid hissed at him for a few days.  She’s fine now, but he started being aggressive and it hasn’t gone away. He’s always kind of not left her alone and gotten weird with her sometimes (like when she’s in the litterbox and sometimes in summer when he humps her) but he’s never been this agressive, never like this.  She’s not doing anything to him, just minding her own business (until he attacks her, then she screams). I really need help suggestions of things I can try, because Kid can’t have this she has enough problems as it is. This is not normal play. Jen. I am not an expert, but I read that neutering does not take away the desire — only the ability especially in male cats.  It sounds like s frustrated kitty.   Keeping him away from her seems to be the best idea.  

I’m sorry, but don’t have any constructive suggestions – unless he might be on some meds after he’s earlier troubles. I wouldn’t have even thought of this if I hadn’t just posted a reply to the thread dealing with flagyl (metronidazole). That got me to remembering that one of the possible side effects of flagyl is confusion and irritability. Another possibility is a change in diet – I know I can be a bit touchy when on a diet ;-) Whatever the cause, I agree with those who are suggesting a temporary separation, as you don’t want him to learn any bad habits which might continue after the cause is gone.

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I am not an expert, but I read that neutering does not take away the desire — only the ability especially in male cats.  It sounds like s frustrated kitty.   Keeping him away from her seems to be the best idea.

Or perhaps, as someone else has sugggested, talking to the vet about kitty prozac. If administered in careful doses, it doesn’t have to make the kitty sluggish. Dan — Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server – http://www.Mailgate.ORG

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m wondering if anyone can help. Muggles has turned mean.  Very mean. He’s attacking Kid and I don’t know why and I’ve tried to handle it for nearly 2 months and it continues. She does nothing, she just sits there, lays there, or runs away when he goes all weird and then he attacks her and sometimes she doesn’t run away. It’s to the point I cannot leave them unsupervised or home alone together. He knows what he’s doing is bad.  He gets a funny squeak and I break them up, but he gets spooked cause he knows what he’s doing is bad and he runs away with his ears back. Sometimes I don’t break them up in time and I yell "NO" and he runs away all scared like — so he knows better but he’s been doing this for like two months. He gets the spray bottle or "NO" and he still continues doing this. I don’t know what to do. I don’t want to permanently drug him, he’s fixed of course and so is she, they’ve been together all their lives (they’re both 2) and Rescue Remedy doesn’t work on him.  I’m going to order feliway now I’ve tried Rescue remedy but if that doesn’t work I don’t know what to do. Right now I cannot afford a behaviorist (even if it would work for a dumb cat), and he’s recently had all his tests done with that bowel thing (he’s been fine for over a month) and tests all turned up regular. On top of all of this, he is totally stupid. This change started when he came back from the vets (his megacolon) and Kid hissed at him for a few days.  She’s fine now, but he started being aggressive and it hasn’t gone away. He’s always kind of not left her alone and gotten weird with her sometimes (like when she’s in the litterbox and sometimes in summer when he humps her) but he’s never been this agressive, never like this.  She’s not doing anything to him, just minding her own business (until he attacks her, then she screams). I really need help suggestions of things I can try, because Kid can’t have this she has enough problems as it is. This is not normal play. Jen.

we’re sending lots of special calming purrs to Muggles. Brenda

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I’m wondering if anyone can help. Muggles has turned mean.  Very mean. He’s attacking Kid and I don’t know why and I’ve tried to handle it for nearly 2 months and it continues. She does nothing, she just sits there, lays there, or runs away when he goes all weird and then he attacks her and sometimes she doesn’t run away. It’s to the point I cannot leave them unsupervised or home alone together. He knows what he’s doing is bad.  He gets a funny squeak and I break them up, but he gets spooked cause he knows what he’s doing is bad and he runs away with his ears back. Sometimes I don’t break them up in time and I yell "NO" and he runs away all scared like — so he knows better but he’s been doing this for like two months. He gets the spray bottle or "NO" and he still continues doing this. I don’t know what to do. I don’t want to permanently drug him, he’s fixed of course and so is she, they’ve been together all their lives (they’re both 2) and Rescue Remedy doesn’t work on him.  I’m going to order feliway now I’ve tried Rescue remedy but if that doesn’t work I don’t know what to do.  Right now I cannot afford a behaviorist (even if it would work for a dumb cat), and he’s recently had all his tests done with that bowel thing (he’s been fine for over a month) and tests all turned up regular. On top of all of this, he is totally stupid. This change started when he came back from the vets (his megacolon) and Kid hissed at him for a few days.  She’s fine now, but he started being aggressive and it hasn’t gone away. He’s always kind of not left her alone and gotten weird with her sometimes (like when she’s in the litterbox and sometimes in summer when he humps her) but he’s never been this agressive, never like this.  She’s not doing anything to him, just minding her own business (until he attacks her, then she screams). I really need help suggestions of things I can try, because Kid can’t have this she has enough problems as it is. This is not normal play. Jen.

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Do you really have OCD? My sister has it. I’m trying (pretty miserably) to help her cope better with it or overcome it (if possible). I’m being very nosey here, sorry if I’m prying too much. Dewi.

More like OCD tendencies.  I don’t have full blown OCD.  Which I am very thankful for, trust me, I have enough on my plate as it is.  There are medications as well as therapies that are very helpful for people with OCD.  I know a lot about it but I don’t have it. Bridget

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Most of the time it is completely random, or you’re just being cycled through (or as prev. mentioned, ISP).  ISPs do it a lot to check for people running website and FTP servers when they’re not supposed to. You will probably find yourself pinging your ISP a lot.   Just invest in a firewall and make sure you’re not sharing out your drives unknowingly – I wouldn’t suggest messing with hackers. Jen.

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Ha! Sounds like the time my daughter sent a large photo to my daughter-in-law. With a dial-up connection, it took nearly half an hour to download, tying up DIL’s computer for the whole time. Furious, DIL sent it back to daughter, which took another half hour to upload. She attached a message that said, "There! How do you like it?" Daughter had DSL. It only took her a very few seconds to download the picture and the message. She sat there scratching her head and muttering, "Now what?" :-)

LOL! I used to be the recipient of large files when I was on dial-up even though I told all of my friends and family NOT to send me big files.  I downloaded a freeware program (no adverts or anything like that, just a simple program) that the Earthlink tech department suggested and used.  It was called E-mail Remover 2.4 (as it’s called now) the most beautiful program known to dial-up. IMHO, of course. You could check your email right from the server using this program and it would download header info and size.  If the size of the file was too big (which in my case was anything over 400kb, seriously) you could delete off the ISP server so it never downloaded when you checked your email.  I used to have to call Earthlink and have them delete messages off the server after my email was stuck for an hour downloading one stupid "god know how many megagbyte" file.  I guess they got sick of me ’cause they divulged their little secret.  I got it at Tucows.com, http://www.tucows.com/preview/194114.html  or search for "E-mail Remover 2.4" if that link doesn’t work .  I used it for 2 years without any incident  It was nice to control what I downloaded on my dime! TJ

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things to say about Re: Help: ROFLMAO!! That’s hilarious. But only if you have a dsl. Poor DIL. One of our engineers at the office works out of Lafayette, part of South Louisiana (Not Bridget’s Lafayette, Indiana). Sometimes that man sends megabytes worth of information. Annoying as heck.

I’ve had to be politely firm with well-intentioned friends or relatives who don’t stop to think about how long it takes to get a big file in via 33.6 dialup. — Seanette Blaylock "You attribute perfect rationality to the whole of humanity, which has to be one of the most misguided assumptions ever." – Alan Krueger in NANAE [make obvious correction to address to send e-mail]

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things to say about Re: Help: [to Tektor] Do you really have OCD? My sister has it. I’m trying (pretty miserably) to help her cope better with it or overcome it (if possible). I’m being very nosey here, sorry if I’m prying too much.

Believe it or not, the gang over in alt.recovery.clutter are a good resource on this topic. A few of them are OCD themselves, others have spouses/children/other relatives with it. — Seanette Blaylock "You attribute perfect rationality to the whole of humanity, which has to be one of the most misguided assumptions ever." – Alan Krueger in NANAE [make obvious correction to address to send e-mail]

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Deep within the Vaults, the silver kitty brushes dust from a post 2002 22:39:24 +0000 (UTC) and contemplates it at length before replying: How do you know you’re being pinged???? Your security software logs it. If you don’t have security software, you can download some for free. download.com is a good place to get them.

and why do you care? — And on the seventh day, God said ‘What my world needs is a creature that will truly appreciate it in all its facets’ – and so He made the kitten. Karen AKA Kajikit Come and visit my part of the web: Kajikit’s Corner: http://Kajikit.netfirms.com/ Aussie Support Mailing List: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AussieSupport Allergyfree Eating Recipe Swap: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Allergyfree_Eating Ample Aussies Mailing List: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ampleaussies/ Love and huggles to all!

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I’m thinking Karen, if they have your isp/dns number, they can hack your computer. They need it to ping you… *shrug* My guess. Grace

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Deep within the Vaults, the silver kitty brushes dust from a post 2002 22:39:24 +0000 (UTC) and contemplates it at length before replying: How do you know you’re being pinged???? Your security software logs it. If you don’t have security software, you can download some for free. download.com is a good place to get them. and why do you care? — And on the seventh day, God said ‘What my world needs is a creature that will truly appreciate it in all its facets’ – and so He made the kitten. Karen AKA Kajikit Come and visit my part of the web: Kajikit’s Corner: http://Kajikit.netfirms.com/ Aussie Support Mailing List:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AussieSupport Allergyfree Eating Recipe Swap:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Allergyfree_Eating Ample Aussies Mailing List:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ampleaussies/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Love and huggles to all!

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Any ideas would be welcome.  Oh, being able to do it anonymously would be helpful. I don’t want to have to change my actual internet connection. :)  And I will only ping people and bother people who are bothering me first.

Since you’re running a dialup connection, I don’t think a router would be your ideal solution. Your best bet would be to figure out how to disable ICMP responses by your operating system (ICMP – Internet Control Message Protocol – is the protocol that generates and responds to pings). What OS are you running? Dan Mahoney

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Okay, I am going nuts.  All the college kids are back and trying out their new computer skills.  I have Norton Internet Security which tells me tells me every time someone pings my internet connection.  I have so far been pinged 20 times and I have been on for less than five minutes.

Bridget, I can’t offer any productive ideas, but I can offer sympathy. A few years ago, before Netscape/Explorer, I would telnet to the Emory server and then go to various sites to download files, or graphics or maybe buy a coke from a basement at MIT.  I used a telenet program to play MU*s. You could easily find out who was online at the Emory site and basically IM anyone who was online.  At the beginning of each semester, and particularly at the beginning of the new year I would get messages, generally from male students. I assume instructions were part of orientation since it was so regular, but because my ID showed as Julia Cook these guys would ping me, ask how I was, carry on conversations and eventually get around to asking how old I was. Of course they didn’t hang out with me very long when they learned I was 34/35 (at that time, I told you it was a few years ago). The first few times it was funny but eventually it became annoying. So you have my sympathy. Julie ps:  Trivia Pursuit. Does anyone remember a site that had a type of contest to find information on the internet? There was a new list of questions each week and the idea was to see if you could find the answers by searching sites. Our group of co-workers would play every week and compete with each other to see who could find the answers first.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Okay, I am going nuts.  All the college kids are back and trying out their new computer skills.  I have Norton Internet Security which tells me tells me every time someone pings my internet connection.  I have so far been pinged 20 times and I have been on for less than five minutes.  What I would like to do is take their little addresses and ping them off the face of the earth.  How do I do that?  I would seriously like to make them have to deal with me – one ping after another ping after another ping after another ping. This is getting very obnoxious.  I know I can set my security program to respond automatically, but I like to know how often these things happen.  One of my OCD traits. If you are going to try to attack my computer, I want to know when you are trying to. Any ideas would be welcome.  Oh, being able to do it anonymously would be helpful. I don’t want to have to change my actual internet connection. :)  And I will only ping people and bother people who are bothering me first. Bridget

Do you really have OCD? My sister has it. I’m trying (pretty miserably) to help her cope better with it or overcome it (if possible). I’m being very nosey here, sorry if I’m prying too much. Dewi.

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Ha! Sounds like the time my daughter sent a large photo to my daughter-in-law. With a dial-up connection, it took nearly half an hour to download, tying up DIL’s computer for the whole time. Furious, DIL sent it back to daughter, which took another half hour to upload. She attached a message that said, "There! How do you like it?" Daughter had DSL. It only took her a very few seconds to download the picture and the message. She sat there scratching her head and muttering, "Now what?" :-) I would love to be able to attack them back and send messages on their computer that stop them from what they are doing saying, "Not so much fun now, is it."

– When employees make concessions while executives take bonuses, the bonds of common purpose are broken.

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ROFLMAO!! That’s hilarious. But only if you have a dsl. Poor DIL. One of our engineers at the office works out of Lafayette, part of South Louisiana (Not Bridget’s Lafayette, Indiana). Sometimes that man sends megabytes worth of information. Annoying as heck. Grace

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ha! Sounds like the time my daughter sent a large photo to my daughter-in-law. With a dial-up connection, it took nearly half an hour to download, tying up DIL’s computer for the whole time. Furious, DIL sent it back to daughter, which took another half hour to upload. She attached a message that said, "There! How do you like it?" Daughter had DSL. It only took her a very few seconds to download the picture and the message. She sat there scratching her head and muttering, "Now what?" :-) I would love to be able to attack them back and send messages on their computer that stop them from what they are doing saying, "Not so much fun now, is it." — When employees make concessions while executives take bonuses, the bonds of common purpose are broken.

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Okay, I am going nuts.  All the college kids are back and trying out their new computer skills.  I have Norton Internet Security which tells me tells me every time someone pings my internet connection.  I have so far been pinged 20 times and I have been on for less than five minutes.  What I would like to do is take their little addresses and ping them off the face of the earth.  How do I do that?  I would seriously like to make them have to deal with me – one ping after another ping after another ping after another ping. This is getting very obnoxious.  I know I can set my security program to respond automatically, but I like to know how often these things happen.  One of my OCD traits. If you are going to try to attack my computer, I want to know when you are trying to. Any ideas would be welcome.  Oh, being able to do it anonymously would be helpful. I don’t want to have to change my actual internet connection. :)  And I will only ping people and bother people who are bothering me first. Bridget

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That sounds more like unknown people trying to contact you through AIM (Instant Messenger).  Often its default is to automatically show you as signed on when you hook up with the internet.  If that’s all it is, just click on the little running yellow man on the bottom of your screen and click "exit" on the menu that comes up.  (It’s a nuisance, but I’ve not been annoyed by it since I started "signing off" before I sign on to the internet.) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Okay, I am going nuts.  All the college kids are back and trying out their new computer skills.  I have Norton Internet Security which tells me tells me every time someone pings my internet connection.  I have so far been pinged 20 times and I have been on for less than five minutes.  What I would like to do is take their little addresses and ping them off the face of the earth.  How do I do that?  I would seriously like to make them have to deal with me – one ping after another ping after another ping after another ping. This is getting very obnoxious.  I know I can set my security program to respond automatically, but I like to know how often these things happen.  One of my OCD traits. If you are going to try to attack my computer, I want to know when you are trying to. Any ideas would be welcome.  Oh, being able to do it anonymously would be helpful. I don’t want to have to change my actual internet connection. :)  And I will only ping people and bother people who are bothering me first. Bridget

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Any ideas would be welcome.  Oh, being able to do it

I’m assuming to have DSL or cable? I got tired of the pings (some are just your own ISP making sure you’re still alive, but others are indeed morons with too much free time) so I invested in a router (buy.com, I have a linksys BEFSR41) and haven’t been pinged since… :)  The router does get all kinds of pings, but since it’s not smart enough to respond or not, it just sits there. — Victor M. Martinez, Jr.            |   The University of Texas at Austin http://www.che.utexas.edu/~martiv  |                    Austin, TX 78712 If we knew what we were doing it would not be called research, would it?  

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How do you know you’re being pinged???? Grace – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Any ideas would be welcome.  Oh, being able to do it I’m assuming to have DSL or cable? I got tired of the pings (some are just your own ISP making sure you’re still alive, but others are indeed morons with too much free time) so I invested in a router (buy.com, I have a linksys BEFSR41) and haven’t been pinged since… :)  The router does get all kinds of pings, but since it’s not smart enough to respond or not, it just sits there. — Victor M. Martinez, Jr.            |   The University of Texas at Austin Engineering http://www.che.utexas.edu/~martiv  |                    Austin, TX 78712 If we knew what we were doing it would not be called research, would

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How do you know you’re being pinged????

Your security software logs it. If you don’t have security software, you can download some for free. download.com is a good place to get them. — Victor M. Martinez, Jr.            |   The University of Texas at Austin http://www.che.utexas.edu/~martiv  |                    Austin, TX 78712 If we knew what we were doing it would not be called research, would it?  

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Any ideas would be welcome.  Oh, being able to do it I’m assuming to have DSL or cable? I got tired of the pings (some are just your own ISP making sure you’re still alive, but others are indeed morons with too much free time) so I invested in a router (buy.com, I have a linksys BEFSR41) and haven’t been pinged since… :)  The router does get all kinds of pings, but since it’s not smart enough to respond or not, it just sits there.

Actually, I just have a dial up connection, but when I log on, the college kids are so active out there  - I suspect it is just one at a time but able to look like many.    How would a hook up a router with a dialup connection? I swear that over the weekend, it has at times been almost impossible for me to do anything on the internet without being notified that I am being pinged.  I am afraid to set my soft ware to say never answer any other ping that ever ever comes in because I just know I would forget where that setting is and then when I do want to do something that requires a ping from another computer – like play head to head with a game, I wouldn’t be able to figure out how to turn it off. And these jerks change the address they are pinging from each time they ping so you have to deal with them each and every time.  It is quiet right now, but I swear there are moments when I am ready to cut off some heads. I would love to be able to attack them back and send messages on their computer that stop them from what they are doing saying, "Not so much fun now, is it." "Why don’t you just quit all your hacking and leave everyone alone."  And so on and just keep it up until they quit all the stuff they are doing.  Probably illegal though.  I hate that.  All the good revenge things are illegal or too hard to do.  Phoo. Bridget – considering a router – but an electronic one because the woodworking one would seriously affect my computers performance in many, many ways. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — Victor M. Martinez, Jr.            |   The University of Texas at Austin http://www.che.utexas.edu/~martiv  |                    Austin, TX 78712 If we knew what we were doing it would not be called research, would it?

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