I Fooled Around With A Guy
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CAR Neal <n…@spamjavanet.com> wrote in message
news:97jeel$dlj$1@bob.news.rcn.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "XoIoxoloX" <xoioxo…@aol.com> wrote in message > news:20010228122401.14256.00000831@ng-cg1.aol.com… > > I think i totally know what women want…(i’m a guy)…but the only > problem is, > > the pressue to do everything they want sucks. Just be yourself, and find a > > chick who likes that. and BTW…the key…always..the key…to women…the > big > > C word: > Cash? 
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Doris Schmitz wrote: > Well, Woodmere, if you were trying to prove your "manhood" why on earth did > you go for a man? You should get yourself a WOMAN; i.e. a girlfriend!
Er, gay men are actually still men aren’t they? They still have penises don’t they? Or do you really believe in stereotypes? > Now > you are what a lot of guys refer to as a "sausage jockey"!
A lot of bigots use terms like that too. > To prove your > manhood go for a woman next time and get yourself a girlfriend.
So does this mean my lesbian friend who has a girlfriend is proving her manhood? > If you are without women too > long the public will definitely start to perceive you as definitely gay!
… or alone, or celibate, or decidely single, or very private.
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Doris Schmitz wrote: > Well, Woodmere, if you were trying to prove your "manhood" why on earth did > you go for a man? You should get yourself a WOMAN; i.e. a girlfriend! Now > you are what a lot of guys refer to as a "sausage jockey"! To prove your > manhood go for a woman next time and get yourself a girlfriend.
You know, if any *MAN* had told that to Woodmere, he could be accused of being "sexist." To you, Woodmere’s purpose of finding a girlfriend is to prove his manhood??? Woodmere doesn’t have to "prove" anything to anybody. His self-worth is not dependent on any such "proof." > You are 21; > you should have no problems going to a nightclub to meet girls or go with > some of your guy friends out to a nightclub. If you are without women too > long the public will definitely start to perceive you as definitely gay!
Who is "the public?" How old does a bachelor have to be before "the public" perceives him as gay? By the way, Sir Isaac Newton (the physicist) died still a virgin. But he wasn’t gay. > The season is upon us so join a baseball team; get those weights and start > going to the gym.
You don’t think gay men are physically fit? — Steven D. Litvintchouk Email: s…@mitre.org Disclaimer: As far as I am aware, the opinions expressed herein are not those of my employer.
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You’re a young guy. You should be bird doggin’ chicks……….. bangin’ beaver.
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Well, Woodmere, if you were trying to prove your "manhood" why on earth did you go for a man? You should get yourself a WOMAN; i.e. a girlfriend! Now you are what a lot of guys refer to as a "sausage jockey"! To prove your manhood go for a woman next time and get yourself a girlfriend. You are 21; you should have no problems going to a nightclub to meet girls or go with some of your guy friends out to a nightclub. If you are without women too long the public will definitely start to perceive you as definitely gay! The season is upon us so join a baseball team; get those weights and start going to the gym. Stop procrastinating and do what other men do; work out, go to clubs, date women, go to the clubs, ect. Woodmere79 <woodmer…@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20010227182514.14041.00000154@ng-ci1.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I know some people will make comments and that’s okay. But today I fooled > around with a guy. When I got home from school, I was really angry, because > when I walked into one of my classes which is fairly large, I COULD OF SWORN I > heard this girl say that my voice or I was gay, i cant even go into, how real > it felt. I almost left school, because I was almost in tears, my stomach was > knotted. I don’t know if it was said or not but it felt SO real like, it really > did happen. Its like you can tell me 100x it was in my head, but I will never > ever believe anyone, although a small part of me kinda thinks its not true. > Anyway, I just wanted to die, I was o the verge of tears, one person even asked > me if I was okay. I just kept thinking in my heart, everyone thinks my voice is > gay, or that Im gay(Im more concerned about the gay voice thing) and I kept > thinking to myself, how badly I wanted to die, because now everywhere I go, > people will say he sounds gay, so it makes me not want to go anywhere, because > I will have to be prepared b/c people will say that.. Anyway, i went home and I > went on aol, and I felt like I should "hook" up with a guy, because if this > person really did call me gay, then I want to act on it. Well, it took me about > 3 hrs to find someone, but I went and met them, he was in his upper 20’s and Im > 21, I was nervous about doing this but I really wanted to do it. Luckily, he > was a "normal" guy, he told me right before, I met him, that he was bi and his > girlfriend, doesn’t know. I felt a little bad, about him having a girlfriend > and doing this, but I still felt like I should do it. I got there and, we did > some stuff and, I got "off" but it wasn’t what I excepted, I enjoyed it a > little jsut because of the sexual excitement and some touching, but all and all > I truly didn’t enjoy it. I actually told him, I had to stop b/c it just wasn’t > want I wanted. I thought I would feel guilty and my obsessions(some of those > non-releated sexual obsessions are bothering me now, because I wrote the word > obsession and guilty) would bother me after I did this but, they didn’t, I > actually am happier, but not really sure why. I guess b/c I now know that I’m > not gay, although Im worried b/c I did get "off" I guess the other reason, I > did this was Im having alot of problems with my roomate, because I’m throwing > him out, Im lonely, and mostly b/c of the worry about, the "girl" calling me > gay, this obsession has worried me to this degree it several years, why was it > so bad today? I wish I knew if she did or it was in my head, its just the way > she looked at me, I felt like she was saying "He’s gay" but maybe its just me > calling myself names. Im still bothered by this girl and guy who were sitting > together, because it makes me not want to talk around people. And I do feel bad > about the guy having a girlfriend, but it doesn’t bother me much, maybe it > should. Any thoughts?
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Nah, most women prefer jerks…. Karubin "Steven D. Litvintchouk" <s…@mitre.org> wrote in message news:3A9DF891.122FB6FE@mitre.org… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> XoIoxoloX wrote: > > I think i totally know what women want…(i’m a guy)…but the only problem is, > > the pressue to do everything they want sucks. Just be yourself, and find a > > chick who likes that. and BTW…the key…always..the key…to women…the big > > C word: > > Confidence 
They eat the stuff up. > I’m naturally shy and withdrawn, maybe women would settle for > "C"–considerate? > — > Steven D. Litvintchouk > Email: s…@mitre.org > Disclaimer: As far as I am aware, the opinions expressed > herein > are not those of my employer.
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>Nah, most women prefer jerks…. >Karubin
Hey Calvin, maybe when I was young I preferred the jerks, but at 46, a "C" man is what I prefer!!! 
Mary
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Oh how sweet; I would surely settle for considerate! :) Mary – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I’m naturally shy and withdrawn, maybe women would settle for >"C"–considerate?
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XoIoxoloX wrote: > I think i totally know what women want…(i’m a guy)…but the only problem is, > the pressue to do everything they want sucks. Just be yourself, and find a > chick who likes that. and BTW…the key…always..the key…to women…the big > C word: > Confidence They eat the stuff up.
I’m naturally shy and withdrawn, maybe women would settle for "C"–considerate? — Steven D. Litvintchouk Email: s…@mitre.org Disclaimer: As far as I am aware, the opinions expressed herein are not those of my employer.
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They like that for sure! lol Chyort "Ida Kern" <clooney…@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:97jglc$5g8$1@slb7.atl.mindspring.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "XoIoxoloX" <xoioxo…@aol.com> wrote in message > news:20010228122401.14256.00000831@ng-cg1.aol.com… > > I think i totally know what women want…(i’m a guy)…but the only > problem is, > > the pressue to do everything they want sucks. Just be yourself, and find a > > chick who likes that. and BTW…the key…always..the key…to women…the > big > > C word: > cunnilingus?
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Ida Kern wrote: > "XoIoxoloX" <xoioxo…@aol.com> wrote in message > news:20010228122401.14256.00000831@ng-cg1.aol.com… > > I think i totally know what women want…(i’m a guy)…but the only > problem is, > > the pressue to do everything they want sucks. Just be yourself, and find a > > chick who likes that. and BTW…the key…always..the key…to women…the > big > > C word: > cunnilingus?
lol! Yes, right on Ida! — monkey
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My thoughts: When I was in college – mind you, I’ve told NO ONE this – I had a brief homo experience. Perfectly safe. But what it taught me is this – I’m not gay. At all. I am not sexually attracted to guys at all, not in the sense that I want to be intimate with one. I tell you, there are a lot of people who are wondering if they are gay. It’s not unusual. So few of us KNOW. I think that’s great! I can hang out with gay friends and be totally at ease. I used to get weirded out if someone who was gay checked me out, I don’t worry about it anymore. I’m not threatened. I know who I am. There is so little we can truly know about ourselves – I think it’s great that you know a little more now. Now when someone says you are gay, look at them, laugh and say, "No, I don’t think so…" If it’s a woman, give her a look like you want her then and there. She’ll stop trying to classify you – who knows, she might want you! BTW if you ever figure out what women want, let the rest of us know. ) "Woodmere79" <woodmer…@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20010227182514.14041.00000154@ng-ci1.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I know some people will make comments and that’s okay. But today I fooled > around with a guy. When I got home from school, I was really angry, because > when I walked into one of my classes which is fairly large, I COULD OF SWORN I > heard this girl say that my voice or I was gay, i cant even go into, how real > it felt. I almost left school, because I was almost in tears, my stomach was > knotted. I don’t know if it was said or not but it felt SO real like, it really > did happen. Its like you can tell me 100x it was in my head, but I will never > ever believe anyone, although a small part of me kinda thinks its not true. > Anyway, I just wanted to die, I was o the verge of tears, one person even asked > me if I was okay. I just kept thinking in my heart, everyone thinks my voice is > gay, or that Im gay(Im more concerned about the gay voice thing) and I kept > thinking to myself, how badly I wanted to die, because now everywhere I go, > people will say he sounds gay, so it makes me not want to go anywhere, because > I will have to be prepared b/c people will say that.. Anyway, i went home and I > went on aol, and I felt like I should "hook" up with a guy, because if this > person really did call me gay, then I want to act on it. Well, it took me about > 3 hrs to find someone, but I went and met them, he was in his upper 20’s and Im > 21, I was nervous about doing this but I really wanted to do it. Luckily, he > was a "normal" guy, he told me right before, I met him, that he was bi and his > girlfriend, doesn’t know. I felt a little bad, about him having a girlfriend > and doing this, but I still felt like I should do it. I got there and, we did > some stuff and, I got "off" but it wasn’t what I excepted, I enjoyed it a > little jsut because of the sexual excitement and some touching, but all and all > I truly didn’t enjoy it. I actually told him, I had to stop b/c it just wasn’t > want I wanted. I thought I would feel guilty and my obsessions(some of those > non-releated sexual obsessions are bothering me now, because I wrote the word > obsession and guilty) would bother me after I did this but, they didn’t, I > actually am happier, but not really sure why. I guess b/c I now know that I’m > not gay, although Im worried b/c I did get "off" I guess the other reason, I > did this was Im having alot of problems with my roomate, because I’m throwing > him out, Im lonely, and mostly b/c of the worry about, the "girl" calling me > gay, this obsession has worried me to this degree it several years, why was it > so bad today? I wish I knew if she did or it was in my head, its just the way > she looked at me, I felt like she was saying "He’s gay" but maybe its just me > calling myself names. Im still bothered by this girl and guy who were sitting > together, because it makes me not want to talk around people. And I do feel bad > about the guy having a girlfriend, but it doesn’t bother me much, maybe it > should. Any thoughts?
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I think i totally know what women want…(i’m a guy)…but the only problem is, the pressue to do everything they want sucks. Just be yourself, and find a chick who likes that. and BTW…the key…always..the key…to women…the big C word: Confidence They eat the stuff up. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->BTW if you ever figure out what women want, let the rest of us know. )
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"XoIoxoloX" <xoioxo…@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20010228122401.14256.00000831@ng-cg1.aol.com… > I think i totally know what women want…(i’m a guy)…but the only problem is, > the pressue to do everything they want sucks. Just be yourself, and find a > chick who likes that. and BTW…the key…always..the key…to women…the big > C word:
Cash? )
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"XoIoxoloX" <xoioxo…@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20010228122401.14256.00000831@ng-cg1.aol.com… > I think i totally know what women want…(i’m a guy)…but the only problem is, > the pressue to do everything they want sucks. Just be yourself, and find a > chick who likes that. and BTW…the key…always..the key…to women…the big > C word:
cunnilingus?
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>BTW…the key…always..the key…to women…the big >C word: >Confidence They eat the stuff up.
Yeah, confidence is good, but the guys shouldn’t go overboard with it & be too conceited, arrogant. Big turn-off for me. Mary
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First of all,I hope you used protection. No use adding AIDs to your list of obsessions. Secondly……..I still don’t think you are gay. Maybe bi-sexual but your encounter sounds more like you’re lonely and you did it more out of wanting to "experiment". Lastly, I like you and think you are a good person regardless. Try and stay away from strange sexual encounters, though. Ida "Woodmere79" <woodmer…@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20010227182514.14041.00000154@ng-ci1.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I know some people will make comments and that’s okay. But today I fooled > around with a guy. When I got home from school, I was really angry, because > when I walked into one of my classes which is fairly large, I COULD OF SWORN I > heard this girl say that my voice or I was gay, i cant even go into, how real > it felt. I almost left school, because I was almost in tears, my stomach was > knotted. I don’t know if it was said or not but it felt SO real like, it really > did happen. Its like you can tell me 100x it was in my head, but I will never > ever believe anyone, although a small part of me kinda thinks its not true. > Anyway, I just wanted to die, I was o the verge of tears, one person even asked > me if I was okay. I just kept thinking in my heart, everyone thinks my voice is > gay, or that Im gay(Im more concerned about the gay voice thing) and I kept > thinking to myself, how badly I wanted to die, because now everywhere I go, > people will say he sounds gay, so it makes me not want to go anywhere, because > I will have to be prepared b/c people will say that.. Anyway, i went home and I > went on aol, and I felt like I should "hook" up with a guy, because if this > person really did call me gay, then I want to act on it. Well, it took me about > 3 hrs to find someone, but I went and met them, he was in his upper 20’s and Im > 21, I was nervous about doing this but I really wanted to do it. Luckily, he > was a "normal" guy, he told me right before, I met him, that he was bi and his > girlfriend, doesn’t know. I felt a little bad, about him having a girlfriend > and doing this, but I still felt like I should do it. I got there and, we did > some stuff and, I got "off" but it wasn’t what I excepted, I enjoyed it a > little jsut because of the sexual excitement and some touching, but all and all > I truly didn’t enjoy it. I actually told him, I had to stop b/c it just wasn’t > want I wanted. I thought I would feel guilty and my obsessions(some of those > non-releated sexual obsessions are bothering me now, because I wrote the word > obsession and guilty) would bother me after I did this but, they didn’t, I > actually am happier, but not really sure why. I guess b/c I now know that I’m > not gay, although Im worried b/c I did get "off" I guess the other reason, I > did this was Im having alot of problems with my roomate, because I’m throwing > him out, Im lonely, and mostly b/c of the worry about, the "girl" calling me > gay, this obsession has worried me to this degree it several years, why was it > so bad today? I wish I knew if she did or it was in my head, its just the way > she looked at me, I felt like she was saying "He’s gay" but maybe its just me > calling myself names. Im still bothered by this girl and guy who were sitting > together, because it makes me not want to talk around people. And I do feel bad > about the guy having a girlfriend, but it doesn’t bother me much, maybe it > should. Any thoughts?
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Hi Justin… Wow, that’s a lot to take in at once. First, I just want to say that no matter if this girl called you gay or not, you probably will never know the truth so it’s not even worth your time. Of course, that doesn’t help us OCDers. So, secondly, I think maybe you might be bi, but I don’t think you’re really gay. But you might be, who knows…I don’t know you well enough to judge. As I have said many times on this NG before, I have gone through all of the gay obsessions before, and at one time I thought maybe I was actually gay or bi. I have since come to the conclusion that I’m straight. But, I can understand where you’re coming from, because when the obsession gets so bad, it seems to overtake you, and it’s like you can participate in things like a homosexual encounter and really not even realize exactly what you’re doing. That’s what happens with me. (I haven’t ever had a homosexual encounter, but I have been overcome by the feelings of wanting to.) I think you are right to feel guilty for messing around with a guy that has a GF, but then again, he’s cheating on her, not you. So don’t feel too bad. That’s his fault, not yours. I really hope that you used some form of protection when you messed around with that guy today, because it’s really not safe these days to mess with any stranger that you meet. Also, you really have to think about what kind of person meets someone online and messes around with them that same day, a few hours later. I know your side of the story and why you did it, but not his. You see what I’m saying? Lastly, I want you to know that if you’re gay, bi, or straight, I’m still your friend and I stand behind you in whatever decision you make. I think sometime in the future you will get to the bottom of this whole situation, and figure out who you really are. Good luck, and e-mail anytime you need to talk. Shana shaynuh…@aol.com Visit the web site created for alt.support.ocd! http://members.aol.com/shaynuh512/page1.html I’m so sick of this roller coaster ride…I want my ticket back!!!
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I know some people will make comments and that’s okay. But today I fooled around with a guy. When I got home from school, I was really angry, because when I walked into one of my classes which is fairly large, I COULD OF SWORN I heard this girl say that my voice or I was gay, i cant even go into, how real it felt. I almost left school, because I was almost in tears, my stomach was knotted. I don’t know if it was said or not but it felt SO real like, it really did happen. Its like you can tell me 100x it was in my head, but I will never ever believe anyone, although a small part of me kinda thinks its not true. Anyway, I just wanted to die, I was o the verge of tears, one person even asked me if I was okay. I just kept thinking in my heart, everyone thinks my voice is gay, or that Im gay(Im more concerned about the gay voice thing) and I kept thinking to myself, how badly I wanted to die, because now everywhere I go, people will say he sounds gay, so it makes me not want to go anywhere, because I will have to be prepared b/c people will say that.. Anyway, i went home and I went on aol, and I felt like I should "hook" up with a guy, because if this person really did call me gay, then I want to act on it. Well, it took me about 3 hrs to find someone, but I went and met them, he was in his upper 20’s and Im 21, I was nervous about doing this but I really wanted to do it. Luckily, he was a "normal" guy, he told me right before, I met him, that he was bi and his girlfriend, doesn’t know. I felt a little bad, about him having a girlfriend and doing this, but I still felt like I should do it. I got there and, we did some stuff and, I got "off" but it wasn’t what I excepted, I enjoyed it a little jsut because of the sexual excitement and some touching, but all and all I truly didn’t enjoy it. I actually told him, I had to stop b/c it just wasn’t want I wanted. I thought I would feel guilty and my obsessions(some of those non-releated sexual obsessions are bothering me now, because I wrote the word obsession and guilty) would bother me after I did this but, they didn’t, I actually am happier, but not really sure why. I guess b/c I now know that I’m not gay, although Im worried b/c I did get "off" I guess the other reason, I did this was Im having alot of problems with my roomate, because I’m throwing him out, Im lonely, and mostly b/c of the worry about, the "girl" calling me gay, this obsession has worried me to this degree it several years, why was it so bad today? I wish I knew if she did or it was in my head, its just the way she looked at me, I felt like she was saying "He’s gay" but maybe its just me calling myself names. Im still bothered by this girl and guy who were sitting together, because it makes me not want to talk around people. And I do feel bad about the guy having a girlfriend, but it doesn’t bother me much, maybe it should. Any thoughts?
