Paranoid need reassurance and dont care

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Thanks for the support. I TRULY  appreciate it Justin

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Lachryma I was talking to my doc, it shouldnt it be Its you and not you ocd, or is it its your ocd and not you (he said its the first one) He said its like people who go to AA: You cant say Its the beer- and not me, you would have to say it its me-not the beer Right?

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Hi Lachryma! It;s so funny reading ur posts because everything u say sounds like me…esp in this one! Anyway just thought I’d share that and shopw everyone out there they’re not alone! and it DOES get better!! ~Am~ Lachryma <elclouserNOS…@gibralter.net> wrote in message

news:MSK57.135012$Pf4.12566602@bin1.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Justin, >     Yes, I’ve had thoughts that wouldn’t leave —  I had a 4 solid year > obsession that I couldn’t shake no matter what I did.  I tried crying (ok, > not to get better), praying, talking, shouting, screaming, and sleeping. > Finally medicine (prozac) stopped it (then, talking helped).  It really > wasn’t me, it was OCD. >     In between that long obsession, there were many, many "paranoid > obsessions" – is she/he going to get mad at me for doing/not doing this or > that (thank God that is gone for the most part – every now and then I get a > "twinge").  It is not a pleasant feeling.  I know how frustrating it can be. > I can hear your pain and frustration. >     Reminding yourself, when you get that obsessed and confused, that it > isn’t you, it’s OCD – may help you to disassociate yourself from the > thoughts somewhat.  You are a smart guy, you already know that you can’t > control what people think or feel or believe – you can only control > yourself. >     Keep talking it out – we’re listening. >     Lachryma > Woodmere79 <woodmer…@aol.com> wrote in message > news:20010719071215.20793.00000166@ng-mc1.aol.com… > > This mother fucking feeling wont fucking leave, has anyone had such a > terrible > > thought that you never think would leave? did it ever?

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I vote for crackwhore!! DigitalMonk – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<Ha…@harp.com> wrote in message news:9j5gk40pss@drn.newsguy.com… > In article <mYq57.122450$HJ1.4032…@e3500-atl1.usenetserver.com>, >       "Doris blurted out, in a fit of infinite stupidity: > >What the lady said was this:  "I know your mailman and he says you are a > >fag". > And if you were next in line, I’m sure you’d have heard "damn, and here comes a > fuckwit!"

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This mother fucking feeling wont fucking leave, has anyone had such a terrible thought that you never think would leave? did it ever?

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Justin,     Yes, I’ve had thoughts that wouldn’t leave —  I had a 4 solid year obsession that I couldn’t shake no matter what I did.  I tried crying (ok, not to get better), praying, talking, shouting, screaming, and sleeping. Finally medicine (prozac) stopped it (then, talking helped).  It really wasn’t me, it was OCD.     In between that long obsession, there were many, many "paranoid obsessions" – is she/he going to get mad at me for doing/not doing this or that (thank God that is gone for the most part – every now and then I get a "twinge").  It is not a pleasant feeling.  I know how frustrating it can be. I can hear your pain and frustration.     Reminding yourself, when you get that obsessed and confused, that it isn’t you, it’s OCD – may help you to disassociate yourself from the thoughts somewhat.  You are a smart guy, you already know that you can’t control what people think or feel or believe – you can only control yourself.     Keep talking it out – we’re listening.     Lachryma Woodmere79 <woodmer…@aol.com> wrote in message

news:20010719071215.20793.00000166@ng-mc1.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> This mother fucking feeling wont fucking leave, has anyone had such a terrible > thought that you never think would leave? did it ever?

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Woodmere79 wrote: > I guess this is what i get for opening my fucking >mouth!

After I come back from my vacation (I’m going away for a week) I’m going to respond to this. I have to go but one thought I want to leave with you is that your fear would have happened regardless of whether you opened your mouth or not. Maybe not the same way, but it would have happened. You can influence events, but the ones that have already happened you cannot change. I know this sounds so stupidly obvious, but I can’t begin to tell you how much I can relate to the feeling of regret—the willingness to take any risk to turn back the hands of time.  I don’t have any more time, I hope Lachryma can respond to this. > I will never know what >was said, but its almost like i wanted her to say, you sound gay, or whatever >so i can just let it go.

I can relate so much to this… I have had the *exact* thoughts you have in your last sentence (substitute other content). You’ll risk *exactly what you’re afraid of* to achieve closure. You crave it. I can understand the feeling so well. sorry, I gotta go but just want you to know I can relate! ttyl greg  

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Hi I dont think I can get over this, its bothering me too much. Sometimes, my roomate is cool to talk with, he said it doesnt add up, that she would call me a fag or say my voice sounds gay. He said why would she start saying, well at least im not….? She would of just said your a faggot, which does make logical sense, but all I can think. Is she said something like. Well at least im not gay, at least I dont sound gay? I cant explain how much this is bothering me, its like it wont go away, its making me sooooo unhappy. I will never know what was said, but its almost like i wanted her to say, you sound gay, or whatever so i can just let it go. Heres my thinking, and here is where im scared if this woman said it other people are thinking this, and not saying it, itst a terrible fear, I can jsut see myself talking at the post office or wherever and having a normal conversation, and think the people behind may think my voice sounds gay. Its annoying but I could be engaged in a normal conversation, and people will think I sound like a freakin faggot. So it wouldnt matter, if i got into with people, because they  are probably thinking i sound like  a fag in general, in everyday normal life, how terrible is that? This is all so draining. Part of me thinks she didnt say it, but part of me doesnt know shit, will this bullshit go away. I guess this is what i get for opening my fucking mouth!

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>From: woodmer…@aol.com  (Woodmere79) >Hi, The advice helps a little, but not much(but it does help)

I’m glad you’re being honest. >I just dont >understand >how some morons can just be so cruel, and call people assholes, because of >there own fuckin problems. Why cant people just be nice to one another, one >clerks mother at the post office just died, and this woman is calling them >assholes, it makes me sick.

I know what you’re saying, and I think it’s a very courageous thing you did, something I wouldn’t have had the guts to do myself. You got involved when it was clear the idiot had no empathy for the workers. You stepped out of the normal bounds of privacy and expected behavior.  Most people would not be strong enough or have the heart to do what you did.   Greg

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Greg, I agree with you, but its the what if part that bothers me.

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What the lady said was this:  "I know your mailman and he says you are a fag". Woodmere79 wrote in message

<20010718160832.20128.00000…@ng-ca1.aol.com>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I was just had the post office, anyway Im friends with many of them. A lady >there was being obnoxious, the clerk stepped away for a second and she said >HELLLLOOOOOO, real rude that didnt bother me. Anyway she went on and said that >you guys(speaking of the postal workers) are real assholes, lound enough so >everyone could care. This pissed me off, anyway, as she left I said lady, you >just mae a read FOOL of yourself, she mumbled back something, and thats what im >paranoid, I couldnt hear what she said. all i could hear is at least im >not……..? So what she did she say, I guess Ill never know, but im going >crazy. Of  course the only thing I could think of is at least im not gay, but >her response could of been something against the post office but I assume it >was saying something like at least my voice is not gay or something to that >effect, this is driving me up the fuckin wall. I drove 80mph to my dads office >to tell him, he said he didnt want to hear it. I guess this bothers me because >I wonder are all people thinking my voice is gay, indeed she did say that, or >next time I confront someone will they slam me with this. help. >I know it was disrespectful of me to talk like that, but her mouth, bothered >me, wasnt trying to be a smart ass, just pissed with people who go around >acting like that.

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One more thing … Even if you could find out what happened, it would still be your OCD.   You just have a greater edge this time.

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Hi, The advice helps a little, but not much(but it does help) I called my doctor after this happened, he was proud of me, he said it wasnt disrepectful. I jsut cant stand how some people go around treating others poorly. I know the people at the post office, well and friendly with many. I just dont understand how some morons can just be so cruel, and call people assholes, because of there own fuckin problems. Why cant people just be nice to one another, one clerks mother at the post office just died, and this woman is calling them assholes, it makes me sick. I really wanted to punch this woman in the face, although my gay ocd might bother me another time, I would say the exact same thing to this lady, my shrink said I was addressing her behavior, I hope this woman thinks about what she did, why does her behavior make so angry, it makes so fucking angry. It was so funny, but all the postal workers mouth dropped when I said they were in total SHOCK, but were happy I stuck up for them. I once said this before but at times Im a self-hating jew, the community I live in is almost all jewish, and not all but some jewish people act like they can do whatever they fucking what to, and life isnt like that. I can name several occasions where people think they can do whatever they want, and life isnt like that! I always think i have problems and my life is hard, but I see there are tons and tons of screw ups in the world. At some level Im stronger then my ocd, because at the time, I didnt care, and said what needed to be said. How many of you would of reacted similar in this situation? Anyway, I went to dinner with my aunt, and feel a little happier, and this worry about the lady at po didnt bother me that much at dinner, and for some reason I was in a happy mood, and very talkative. I just want to know why some people think the have no rules? why? What makes them SOOOOO mother fucking special. I know the post office gay obsession will return tomorrow, which kinda sucks.

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Woodmere79 wrote: >So what she did she say, I guess Ill never know, but im going >crazy.

This is your worry, Justin.  But the bright side is you’ll never know and there’s no way of finding out this time.  No amount of ruminating will ever change that fact. With OCD, you’re not usually this lucky.  In this case there is absolutely nothing to check or to verify…so that is a BIG burden lifted off your shoulders right now (Now THAT is a fact, even though your OCD will probably refuse to believe it!)   The ONE certainty you DO have: Knowing what happened has already happened, and knowing no compulsion exists for your obsession to verify what happened.   You will never know what was in the lady’s head at the time she saw you or what came out of her mouth.  And you will never know what she meant, or what this could mean about your voice.  There is absolutely no way of finding out what she said. So my reassurance to you is: Release and absolve your brain of all responsibilities to solve this problem, because you can’t.  It is just your OCD. Greg

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I was just had the post office, anyway Im friends with many of them. A lady there was being obnoxious, the clerk stepped away for a second and she said HELLLLOOOOOO, real rude that didnt bother me. Anyway she went on and said that you guys(speaking of the postal workers) are real assholes, lound enough so everyone could care. This pissed me off, anyway, as she left I said lady, you just mae a read FOOL of yourself, she mumbled back something, and thats what im paranoid, I couldnt hear what she said. all i could hear is at least im not……..? So what she did she say, I guess Ill never know, but im going crazy. Of  course the only thing I could think of is at least im not gay, but her response could of been something against the post office but I assume it was saying something like at least my voice is not gay or something to that effect, this is driving me up the fuckin wall. I drove 80mph to my dads office to tell him, he said he didnt want to hear it. I guess this bothers me because I wonder are all people thinking my voice is gay, indeed she did say that, or next time I confront someone will they slam me with this. help. I know it was disrespectful of me to talk like that, but her mouth, bothered me, wasnt trying to be a smart ass, just pissed with people who go around acting like that.

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