low self esteem and increasing tics
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On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 ticst…@my-dejanews.com wrote: > I have not a very high self-esteem, there is no doubt. > But I feel that the number and intensity of my tics is increasing when I go > through a situation in which I am aware of my low self-esteem. > Can anybody confirm this "connection"?
I notice that often sudden memories of daft things I did are followed by tics. The same goes for memories of things I did which I realise other people around might have interpreted as stupidity. Maybe the tics are some sort of "warding action". Dunno whether the memories cause the tics or whether something else causes both to occur more or less simultaneously. — ,_ /_) /| / / i e t e r / |/ a g e l
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>ticst…@my-dejanews.com wrote: >> I have not a very high self-esteem, there is no doubt. >> But I feel that the number and intensity of my tics is increasing when I go >> through a situation in which I am aware of my low self-esteem. >> Can anybody confirm this "connection"? >> ticstump
I think sometimes we’re most aware of our low self-esteem when we’re going through a depression. Have you talked to a doctor about it? Dominique 
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In article <19990416014454.11145.00001…@ng-ca1.aol.com>, haejint…@aol.comREMOVE (Haejintien) wrote: > >ticst…@my-dejanews.com wrote: > >> I have not a very high self-esteem, there is no doubt. > >> But I feel that the number and intensity of my tics is increasing when I go > >> through a situation in which I am aware of my low self-esteem. > >> Can anybody confirm this "connection"? > >> ticstump > I think sometimes we’re most aware of our low self-esteem when we’re going > through a depression. Have you talked to a doctor about it?
doctors are comparing you with others. This may be usefull, sometimes. But normally a doctor has not TS, he is only dealing with patients who have TS. When he says something, it is always done by a third person who perhaps knows a lot of TS-cases but who normally has not TS. BUT: when I talk to you, my friends here in the newsgroup, than I can be shure that your answers come from personal experiences and that you express yourself in a way that everybody understands it. AND THIS IS, WHY I LIKE THIS NEWSGROUP SO MUCH!!!!! THANK YOU ALL; I AM GLAD TO CORRESPOND WITH YOU ticstump ———–== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==———- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
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>> I think sometimes we’re most aware of our low self-esteem when we’re going >> through a depression. Have you talked to a doctor about it? >doctors are comparing you with others. This may be usefull, sometimes. But >normally a doctor has not TS, he is only dealing with patients who have TS. >When he says something, it is always done by a third person who perhaps knows >a lot of TS-cases but who normally has not TS. BUT: when I talk to you, my >friends here in the newsgroup, than I can be shure that your answers come >from personal experiences and that you express yourself in a way that >everybody understands it. AND THIS IS, WHY I LIKE THIS NEWSGROUP SO MUCH!!!!! >THANK YOU ALL; I AM GLAD TO CORRESPOND WITH YOU ticstump
Likewise, I can totally relate, (my doc knows litte about TS, though I think he’s studied up on it a bit since I started seeing him, but yeah, still not the same, is it? LOL.) But at the same time, if you’re in a depression that’s interfering badly enough with your quality of life, WE can’t perscribe you medication should you decide that is your best route. Sometimes a combo of friends AND doc are best? Good luck!!! Dominique
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oh, yea, I forgot to talk about the warding off. That is what I figured out about it after trying to pay close attention to what was going on. I was misdiagnosed and only suspected I had ts back then. For a while this threw me off the mark because I seemed to find a reason for the tics. Same for when I reported it to my shrink. Threw him off. Misinfo and some bad shrinking and my own fears and shame about going into too much detail about my most embarrassing tics delayed diagnosing, but I have to say I’ve seen some pretty awful doctors in my day, before and after diagnosis.
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the warding off seems to have the purpose of making me stop feeling the humiliation, but if I have a loud vocal tic that I think someone might have heard I might have another worse one and another…
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yes! absolutely confirmed in my case I seem to scan over everything I’ve done over the day, week year lifetime that could I can find reason to be embarrassed about and react with tics, the more embarrassed, the harder I tic. I’ve been aware of this for a long, long time. Often I don’t even scan- the thoughts just seem to find me. I can’t seem to stop doing that to myself. I take it all as a big self-esteem problem for myself. Doesn’t mean that’s what it is for you or anybody else. I’ve asked other ts’ers and doctors about that. Only confirmation was a teen at a support group meeting said he does the identical thing except instead of going into his collection of tics, he goes off into uncontrollable ocd behaviors. This has been a very big issue for me.
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ticst…@my-dejanews.com wrote: > I have not a very high self-esteem, there is no doubt. > But I feel that the number and intensity of my tics is increasing when I go > through a situation in which I am aware of my low self-esteem. > Can anybody confirm this "connection"? > ticstump
I cannot confirm this connection because I am not a doctor but it does make sense because when you are in a situation where you are aware of your low self esteem this has the tendency to put pressure on you and we all know that pressure will increase our tics. Mark
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I have not a very high self-esteem, there is no doubt. But I feel that the number and intensity of my tics is increasing when I go through a situation in which I am aware of my low self-esteem. Can anybody confirm this "connection"? ticstump ———–== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==———- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
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If I understand you correctly, there’s no surprise in your observation. Tics are more frequent or intense when there are non-specific increases in tension, excitement, distress, etc. ("non-specific" means that many factors can produce the same result, and that people without tics who have a "weak stomach" or "weak bladder" — for example — will have increases in their symptoms under similar circumstances). Roger D. Freeman, M.D. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -ticst…@my-dejanews.com wrote: > I have not a very high self-esteem, there is no doubt. > But I feel that the number and intensity of my tics is increasing when I go > through a situation in which I am aware of my low self-esteem. > Can anybody confirm this "connection"? > ticstump > ———–== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==———- > http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
