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Question:

In article <380593AF.94EBC…@idt.net>, Richard Edward Wardell <rich…@idt.net> writes >I’d rather trust and be deceived as I have many, many times than to be overly >suspicious. >Richard

I second that many times. — simon —

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Richard wrote:

I’d rather trust and be deceived as I have many, many times than to be overly suspicious. Richard I agree with Richard 100% on this ONE particular thread/posts. It sounds too sad and tragic and would take a very disturbed person to invent such a story. I believe the posts are from Mo’s son and I would rather look stupid and err on the side of trust and safety than be harsh and suspicious. Another 2 cents, Tom Luby

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I don’t know if Mo is for real or not but she could be just as anyone here may or may not be. For the most part, we have only our "suspicions" as a guide. I agree with Richard that it is better to be trusting and take people at their word than it is to be suspicious. OCDers are known for their inability to trust and it shows big time on this ng lately. There is a "holier than thou" attitude among some of the posters, as Mo said, on this ng. OCD does have a lot to do with this attitude. Many with ocd are very defensive and very protective of their "beliefs". I know OCD is not thought by the "experts" to be a defense mechanism but like I say, many ocders are very defensive, protective and unreasonable so. When "suspicions" run rampant, our defense systems and protective mechanisms also get into high gear. I have also noticed that some involved with ocd "support" groups are, as Mo said, just looking for attention and not really interested in dealing with their ocd, they just want it to go away. Forums such as this are a way of not dealing with ocd when they are used as an escape from ocd. Many new people come here for information and what they see are a bunch of kids fighting, they see a lot of non ocd chit-chat (best left to email and private chat channels), they see a "gang mentality" that either accepts or rejects newbies, and they see the holier than thou attitudes. Most of what goes on here is "protective" and that is just more ocd behavior, it reinforces ocd beliefs and behaviors. Mo, real or not, did bring up "real" issues concerning this ng. She has demonstrated how serious this disorder is. That is what I think people here should be thinking about. — Take care of your "self". whatatrip rbol…@premier1.net Scott C. <cny…@borg.nospam.com> wrote in message

news:38060069.73D7@borg.nospam.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> x-no-archive: yes > Roger, > Other than being reminded once again about what depressed people may > do and that people who are depressed often don’t share what is really > going on….what would you have certain people here think about ?? This > is all of course assuming that this is true….which I doubt. > Take care, Scott > whatatrip wrote: > > If this post is for real, then some on this ng have some things to think > > about. > > — > > Take care of your "self". > > whatatrip > > rbol…@premier1.net > > Mo <cheva…@execulink.com> wrote in message > > news:R5SM3.2980$i3.107023@nnrp1.uunet.ca… > > > I’m Mo’s son. I don’t know who anyone is or how you know my mom. But you > > > should know that she od’d tonight and is at the emerg. Don’t know much > > more > > > than that. She’ll be gone a while. Thanks to any friends. > — > *********************************************************************** > To reply: Remove .nospam from the above. Scott C. @–>–>—

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I’m Mo’s son. I don’t know who anyone is or how you know my mom. But you should know that she od’d tonight and is at the emerg. Don’t know much more than that. She’ll be gone a while. Thanks to any friends.

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If this post is for real, then some on this ng have some things to think about. — Take care of your "self". whatatrip rbol…@premier1.net Mo <cheva…@execulink.com> wrote in message

news:R5SM3.2980$i3.107023@nnrp1.uunet.ca… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’m Mo’s son. I don’t know who anyone is or how you know my mom. But you > should know that she od’d tonight and is at the emerg. Don’t know much more > than that. She’ll be gone a while. Thanks to any friends.

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>Subject: One Minute Please >From: "Mo" cheva…@execulink.com >Date: Tue, 12 October 1999 10:31 PM EDT >Message-id: <R5SM3.2980$i3.107…@nnrp1.uunet.ca> >I’m Mo’s son. I don’t know who anyone is or how you know my mom. But you >should know that she od’d tonight and is at the emerg. Don’t know much more >than that. She’ll be gone a while. Thanks to any friends.

I hope this in not true, but I smell a rat. Grindo

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In article <R5SM3.2980$i3.107…@nnrp1.uunet.ca>, Mo <cheva…@execulink.com> writes >I’m Mo’s son. I don’t know who anyone is or how you know my mom. But you >should know that she od’d tonight and is at the emerg. Don’t know much more >than that. She’ll be gone a while. Thanks to any friends.

I really hope that Mo is okay. — simon —

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I hope this is not true either but I am also a little cynical and unbelieving. My husband knows I frequent this newsgroup but I don’t think he would think to come on here and say anything (unless I told him to). If Mo had unsubscribed from the newsgroup how would her son know to come here? But regardless of my suspicions, she deserves a prayer. Ida Grindo23 <grind…@aol.com> wrote in message

news:19991013001005.29742.00000544@ng-fn1.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >Subject: One Minute Please > >From: "Mo" cheva…@execulink.com > >Date: Tue, 12 October 1999 10:31 PM EDT > >Message-id: <R5SM3.2980$i3.107…@nnrp1.uunet.ca> > >I’m Mo’s son. I don’t know who anyone is or how you know my mom. But you > >should know that she od’d tonight and is at the emerg. Don’t know much more > >than that. She’ll be gone a while. Thanks to any friends. > I hope this in not true, but I smell a rat. > Grindo

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Hi Roger, whatatrip wrote: >OCDers are known for their inability to trust

Is that an officially-recognised trait of OCD sufferers? I’ve never seen it in print or on the Internet. >There is a "holier than thou" attitude among some of the posters

Why not name names (without flaming people)? Generalisations or insinuations only spread disharmony. >Many with ocd are very defensive and very protective of their "beliefs".

Well, I know this guy called Roger… >I know OCD is not thought by the "experts" to be a defense mechanism

I’m tending to think that for some people it is (or maybe used to be). Like… me, for example. >I have also noticed that some involved with ocd "support" groups >are, as Mo said, just looking for attention and not really interested in >dealing with their ocd, they just want it to go away.

Again, why not name names? You’ve said in the past (to me) that people come here for understanding. I replied that people come here for a whole variety of reasons. People are also capable of change – I offer Tom Luby as a perfect example. To censure certain posters (whoever they may be) for not taking things seriously would preclude them from doing so in the future. I’ve just asked for support here myself – for the very first time in the six months that I’ve been here. This most definitely doesn’t mean that I fail to take my own OCD problems seriously. People can be light-hearted one day and deadly-serious the next. It’s unrealistic to expect all posters to be deadly-serious all the time. Human nature doesn’t work that way. >Many new people come here for information and what they see are a bunch of >kids fighting

Including yourself, Roger! Any fighting is a temporary situation though. Anybody who expects Mary Poppins-type Sunday-school best behaviour *anywhere* on Usenet is doomed to be savagely disappointed. >they see a lot of non ocd chit-chat (best left to email and private chat

channels) I mix my serious posts with chit-chat. I can see no harm in chit-chat – it allows for a friendly atmosphere, enabling people to open up and relate more easily. >they see a "gang mentality" that either accepts or rejects newbies

A "gang mentality" is your subjective opinion. I can see, and belong to, no "gangs". I’ve never seen a newbie rejected in the six months that I’ve been here. Not even SquirtsALOT was rejected upon arrival – he was given advice on where to obtain free meds. Similarly, "Mo" wasn’t rejected by anyone, she was welcomed. >and they see the holier than thou attitudes.

Can you give me some examples, please? Dare I politely suggest that you yourself are exhibiting such an attitude right now? >Mo, real or not, did bring up "real" issues concerning this ng.

Nothing that we were previously unaware of. Shortly after Mo arrived here Tom Luby called for a truce. Mo did not seem to take any notice of this, although it was the solution to what she had initially complained about. >She has demonstrated how serious this disorder is.

I think that most people here understand that already. Regards, Steve

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Whether this is real or a hoax, it is evident that this person needs support, and doesn’t feel like they have received it here, or in any other place. I hope that the person in pain that took whatever step (overdose or hoax) can find relief in a place that helps them to know that this world has caring people, that healing is possible. Mo <cheva…@execulink.com> wrote in message

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I’d rather trust and be deceived as I have many, many times than to be overly suspicious. Richard – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -INaFog5716 wrote: > It’s such a shame that we have to be suspicious of a post like this. I truly > hope Mo is OK and that no one is playing a game. A troll can ruin the whole ng > & then we can’t trust like we should. > Mary > >If this post is for real, then some on this ng have some things to think > >about.

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It’s such a shame that we have to be suspicious of a post like this. I truly hope Mo is OK and that no one is playing a game. A troll can ruin the whole ng & then we can’t trust like we should. Mary – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->If this post is for real, then some on this ng have some things to think >about.

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>Subject: Re: One Minute Please >From: inafog5…@aol.com (INaFog5716) >Date: Wed, 13 October 1999 07:39 PM EDT >Message-id: <19991013193920.20151.00000…@ng-fx1.aol.com> >It’s such a shame that we have to be suspicious of a post like this. I truly >hope Mo is OK and that no one is playing a game. A troll can ruin the whole >ng >& then we can’t trust like we should. >Mary